Episode 11

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7th Apr 2026

S3E11 - USM Recap with Efrain Morales

ODU Baseball Sophomore Efrain Morales joins the guys to talk about his big bounce back from injury. Coach Finny hops on to recap 4 games against Top 10 opponents and the big win Friday.

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Hello Monarch fans and welcome to the Hudson Homer podcast.

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Got CB here as always.

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Coach Finney joining us as well after, well, I think I'm just

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gonna dub as as hell week, I think with four top 10 opponents

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in one, but we went one in three.

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We did get a big win on Saturday about got one on Sunday.

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I feel a lot better coming outta that Sunday game now than I did

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let's say after the UVA game with cb.

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How you doing?

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Yeah, I'm with you.

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That was, uh, it felt a lot like, you know, again, you don't hate to say

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there's no moral victories, but it did feel like, okay, this is what we've

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been saying when we talk about this team every week and we believe in and

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we say, Hey, if you guys play like you can, here's what you could do.

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Um, so that was, it was nice to see on Sunday that happens and or Saturday.

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Yeah.

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We're all getting our days all mixed up on Saturday.

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Yeah, that's

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right.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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We were day short this week, uh, day up anyway, because 'cause of

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Easter and hope you guys all had a good Easter and everyone, and.

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Uh, it was a nice day until it rained and then it cooled off and

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got cold again for, for a minute.

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Uh uh, we got a chilly chilly night tomorrow, I think, up

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in Williamsburg ahead of us.

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Mm-hmm.

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Uh, and then warming up again.

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I always look at the weather whenever we've gotta go to Huntington,

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West Virginia, because Yeah, up in there in April when it's snowing

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snow and, uh, that is a fact.

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That's not a, no,

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I believe it.

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Um, but it looks like the weather's gonna be pretty good there.

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So.

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Nice.

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Um, it's good to see.

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And a, and a really nice, they build a really nice ballpark,

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so this will be our second time going, you know, to play in that.

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And they've had good crowds when the weather's been nice, so that makes

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for a nice atmosphere for sure.

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Is

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their, their new stadium is off of campus, right?

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It's a couple miles

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away.

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No,

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it's, it's on campus.

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It's on campus.

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Okay.

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Football stadium.

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Yeah.

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They've got softball right next to it, right, right next to football.

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Um, their indoor area right there.

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It's all right.

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Kind of there together.

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Yeah, they did a nice job with it.

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Um, the location of it's good as well.

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I think so.

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Um, yeah.

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After years of the other way, it's, it's all, it's great that they, uh, they've

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got that, that's what you wanna see.

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Yeah.

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You talked about planes, trains and automobiles.

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Man, we played 'em in, uh, well, YMCA one time stories.

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Now going back to my playing days, playing Marshall.

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You know, we played in some place called St. Cloud Commons,

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which was up on top of this hill.

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It was a terrible field.

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Uh, they played in the old Huntington Cubs.

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Which was, uh, Appalachian League, Chicago Cubs, rookie League field that

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played in that for a while, and that sat at the bottom of a floodplain when,

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when it rained real hard, they'd open the floodgates to the river and it

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would flood the field and go out there after they closed them after a dream.

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And there'd be fish.

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People would be picking fish up off the field.

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Make that up.

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I swear.

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It's true.

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We

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got dinner tonight, boys.

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Yeah,

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yeah.

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Um, that I played against them at, um, their, uh, across the state line, actually

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in Kentucky, at Boyd County High School.

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Um, yep.

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Uh, and, and everywhere in between Beckley, West Virginia,

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uh, Charleston, West Virginia.

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Yep.

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You know, and now at, at the YMCA field that was there in,

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in, uh, in Huntington and in.

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That

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was where we set the team record for home runs that

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game.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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We had like 17 home runs in that series.

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Um, and now, now in, uh, they've got a real nice ballpark, so long

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time coming and, and well deserved.

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Yeah.

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So happy for those guys.

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Um, for sure.

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So yeah, la recapping the week, you know, um, coming back off

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the road from South Alabama.

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And, uh, traveling up to Charlottesville, uh, we knew that was gonna be a tough

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task with midweek, you know, arms going up there and, uh, they got a really good

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club, you know, I think they've got at least two and maybe three big leaguers,

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you know, on that team, uh, shortstop center field and maybe first base.

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And those guys had about 10 or 12 rbis outta those 16.

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Between the three of them, I think we couldn't do much to stop any of them.

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And, you know, 10,

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10 rbis, I'm looking at it.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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They're a lot better than us right now, and especially with those guys.

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So, you know, you get some of those hybrid teams from coaching changes.

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The, the guys that, the good guys that didn't leave and the guys

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they brought with 'em from Duke.

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Um, and they got a, you know, they got a good club and even they, you

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know, it's college baseball though.

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They've lost their last two series in the a c to Boston College and

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then at Home to Florida State.

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So, uh, it's all relative.

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Um, so we had to get home and regroup.

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Um, you know, Thursday gets Southern miss.

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We just got, you know, the, the, the theme, right.

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We got behind early, but I, I didn't, I I did think I saw some,

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some better things from Darren Ky.

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He didn't

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Yeah.

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You know, pack it in.

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He kinda hung in there and, and was able to give us five

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innings, which was we needed.

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Um, and not blow a bunch of people up and get killed.

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And we had some good at bats in that game too.

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I, I, I really, I really think so.

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And I told the guys after the game, you know, hang in your

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head ain't gonna do nothing.

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Like, you gotta get out here tomorrow, ready to go and, you know, if you play

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better, you can have a chance to beat 'em.

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And guys came out the next day and, and we played a good ball game, you know?

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Um.

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We had a bunch of big at bats, you know, uh, got the lead, expanded it,

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and then, you know, we just, we, we, we had, uh, one out and, you know,

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10 to three, one out, nobody on, and we walked a daggum, you know, nine

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hole hitters, a pinch hitter who's they're, you know, they're just putting

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some guys in the game sitting Oh, 65.

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Yeah.

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And we walk him and then that's where it snowballs from there.

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And they end up getting five.

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But we get the win.

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We made error.

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It's short on a routine battle.

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We walked a guy, we hit two guys, we made an error.

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We gave him four free base runners in that inning.

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I feel like Bailey took you literally when he threw, was throwing back foot sliders.

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'cause he was literally bouncing 'em off of their back foot it felt like.

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Yeah, and Bailey, Bailey was really good up until then.

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Man.

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He comes in, strikes out their, their three hole guy with two outs and to

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finish the seventh and then just goes.

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Clean inning in the eighth.

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Mm-hmm.

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Um, and it, for whatever reason, the ninth inning just gets him.

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And so, uh, we were trying to squeeze one more out of him, you know, with the, with

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the bigger lead and just didn't work out.

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But I think so then he threw the ball.

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Well and you know, like I said, you know, David should have thrown three pitches.

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Had Ben outta that thing.

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We, we team ball short.

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Yeah.

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And

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you just can't do that.

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I mean, if you wanna play shortstop at this level, that play has

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to be made plain and simple.

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Um, that's just all I can say about it.

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So yeah, there was, because I, I mean, I think Bailey made two good pitches.

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Like one would've been a double play.

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We only get the out at second and then the other ground ball that was hit to short.

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Yeah.

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Let me mention something about that because I heard that

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from Ted too on the broadcast.

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Re re reviewing a couple things, every ball that's hits the middle infield or in

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the double play ball, we weren't playing double play depth because when you're up

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by seven, you're just trying to get outs.

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Um, you, when you're, when it's a two, three run, one ball game, yeah.

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You need double plays.

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Uh, if there's runner on third, things like that.

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But when you're up by a bunch, um, we're playing the guys

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back on the edge of the grass.

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Not necessarily every ball is a double play ball.

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So that was in that case, I, I'll, I'll take responsibility for that.

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'cause we had the guys at Max Range, we weren't, you know, you

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don't need to force a double play.

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You need to trade out and you'll trade outs for runs at that point.

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Yeah.

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So I think that's something to, to make clear.

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And, um, I heard, I heard Ted say that, and I understand the, you

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know, the inclination of every ball, you know, ball hits the second base

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should be a double play ball, but in that case, that's not the case.

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Um, that was hit the second and we were telling the guys, make sure one,

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uh, let's not force something and try to throw a ball away and get no outs.

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Trying to be too quick.

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Sometimes, you know, when you're up big, you're just getting that out

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and that was the case on that one.

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Now should we made the ne you know, the one the short a hundred

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percent, you gotta make that play.

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But that was, that was the case on that ball path right there.

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Uh, if you get the lead out, great, uh, but we're not gonna,

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not gonna force that right there.

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Um, you know, and then, and you know, they nickel and DMed

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him a little bit after that.

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Mm-hmm.

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And

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yeah.

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And this is something else that's interesting.

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Not once but twice.

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I think on Saturday we had two foul popups.

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That a hundred percent are caught.

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Yeah.

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The temporary backstop up, I mean that's right.

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We,

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we,

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I think we mentioned that in the dugout.

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Yeah.

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And they're right.

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It's right there.

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Not even close to where the regular wall would be.

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Mm-hmm.

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And I, I'm just thinking Valley Core,

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I said it twice.

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Thanks.

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Uh, because

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it's a good, like eight feet

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back there that at least it might be more like, yeah, 12.

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It's a, it's a good distance.

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And the, the bounces are funky off of that too.

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We've had some weird ones skip the plate and hit the, hit the backstop and go over.

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I mean, it's, it's a noticeable difference to what we used to have.

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And I, I imagine that's gonna be a little difficult on getting dirt ball

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reads too, if you're at second or third.

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Yeah.

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It's, it's, it's weird.

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It's part of this year's journey, I guess.

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But those are two outs.

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One of 'em, one of 'em came with, one of them came with two

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outs and that inning's over.

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Yeah.

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Yep.

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And that guy singles to tie it up.

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Uh, and then the next, next inning, I think one happened with one out,

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but could change completely change.

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It definitely changes the one in it 'cause we're in the dugout.

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Right.

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And it could have changed the next thing, but it didn't happen.

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Didn't work out.

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Um, anyway.

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But you know, that, that, that Friday game, I thought we played good baseball.

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We, we, we made, we played good defense up until that play in the ninth.

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Mm-hmm.

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Uh, made the routine plays.

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We got some big hits.

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Um, we're able to, you know, expand the, expand the lead and

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take advantage of, you know, some walks and some of their mistakes.

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Um.

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And, and, and then although we, you know, did make it a

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closer game, we, we hung on one.

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So, uh, that's a good win for us.

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And then, you know, Sunday we got, got down again.

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Um, you know, uh, but we came back and, and the guys, you know, they kept

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fighting and we got the lead there, you know, um, in the seventh and, um,

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just, just weren't able to keep it.

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But I thought the guys, you know, again, we, those two games we played better.

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We, we got some big hits, um, when we needed 'em.

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And I thought getting, I thought Tyler Zedalis did a good job at, at third.

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Yeah.

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Um, and you know, he had to play next two games with his foot all bruised up.

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'cause he got hit squarely on the foot on, on on Thursday.

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Um, you know, had the big base load for us in game three and

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made the routine plays at third.

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And that's something we haven't been doing all year.

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And

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y'all almost made an amazing play there in like the shortstop

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hole, uh, on the um, yeah, yeah,

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yeah.

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And you know, it seemed like wherever we played 'em, they

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were hitting somewhere else too.

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Yeah, yeah.

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That was a, which is just a sign of good hitters, because that was Yeah.

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Yeah.

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You know, we, we talk all the time about what you wanna see in a hitter is I want

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you to want to get on base no matter what's, and you saw that a lot with those

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guys, where it was like, especially with two strikes, like, I'm gonna put this

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ball in play and make something happen.

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It's not that thing of, like, you, you beat the shift that way.

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You, the shift works when a hitter says, I'm gonna do it my way, no matter what.

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The shift doesn't work when hitter says, I'm going to get on base no matter

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what.

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A hundred percent.

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And they stayed in the middle of the field, probably more than 18.

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We've played this year.

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Mm-hmm.

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And yeah, maybe we, you know, hindsight's 2020, we, maybe we

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play 'em a little more straight up.

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Things are different, but when we were playing 'em straight up, they

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were hitting where we weren't.

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Yeah.

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It was perfectly right up the middle, you know, and, um, you

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gotta give them credit for that.

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I, I'll tell you something else, you gotta give 'em credit for

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their shortstop played great.

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Mm-hmm.

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Unbelievable.

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And I, he's a mobile player, Alabama guy, and I, you know, he hasn't

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played much his first two years there.

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Um, he's been a backup, a defensive sub and third and some things like that.

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And he's been there every day, shortstop this year as a junior.

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And Mandy, he makes some great plays on the run and everywhere and accurate

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throws Really, really impressive.

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Um,

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eight, eight hits offensively for him too this

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weekend.

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Yeah.

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He

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was time.

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So he, and a bunch of those were two strikes, like you were saying, ccb.

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Mm-hmm.

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He had, he had a bunch of big two strike, uh, hits for them, you know, so, um.

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I thought we, I thought we sw the bats better the last two days and, you

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know, um, had more competitive at bats.

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I thought er, Morales had a pretty good weekend for us.

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It was nice to get him back in a lineup.

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Mm-hmm.

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You know, um, in there and

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different energy when he's playing.

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Yeah.

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And

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it just

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kind of makes things go.

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Yep,

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yep, yep.

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He's a good competitor and you know, it's nice to see him back

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healthy and, and playing again.

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Certainly.

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Mm-hmm.

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Um, so

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the, the two out hitting for you all on Friday and Saturday was huge.

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I mean, you, you scored six runs in the sixth end up getting the win.

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All those came with two out and then when you made the push in the

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seventh inning and the final game of the series, I mean, you put a six

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runs across the board, you take the lead in the bottom of the seventh.

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I think we've been kind of waiting for that.

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And you just saw those at bats just start to stack and the pressure

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was on Southern miss at that point.

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And I mean, they have a great pitching staff and we, we, we beat

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'em up two outta those three games.

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Yeah.

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Well their coach said, never seen Colby Allen do that.

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Um, they brought in on Friday.

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Uh, it was first team off conference last year, I think as a, but he, uh,

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he, he's been pretty special for them.

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And, and you know, he wa he, he walked some guys and then we took advantage and,

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you know, late hits the big home run to, to wrap up scoring in, in that ending.

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So, um, yeah, that was, that was, that was good to see.

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So, um, you know, you look back, I, I thought, I thought Jackson

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Ocon really battled for us, man.

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That was probably the longest he's gone this year in terms of pitch count,

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you know, we had to get him in there.

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I don't know, it's just been one of those things, you know, Cole Lanford last couple

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outings in relief, he's been pretty good.

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And then he couldn't get an out on Sunday, you know, unfortunately.

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Mm-hmm.

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So, um, we've seen some guys blow up fast and, um, we wanted to try to get one

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time through the lineup with Nick Ezio.

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Um, he did a pretty good job there and.

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Lanny, you know, last weekend throws four in four, shut out inning, force out the,

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yeah.

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Um, and you know, this weekend he is can't get, he can't get an out outta him.

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So, uh, it's, that's tough.

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You know, when they do that and by the time we got Jack, then we ran parking

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and he'd give up a couple and then, you know, you're down, you know, four or

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five to nothing before you get going.

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Um, but JL Battle Force, he's going to, he's gonna show him some good signs.

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I thought, I thought he, you know, outta the freshman.

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I thought he threw the ball real well.

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I thought Maddox Jack threw the ball real well on Thursday.

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Yeah, he's been doing great.

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Um, he's been getting better and, and Ben Tanton threw the ball well on

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Friday, you know, and, and in relief.

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And JJ Gati, that was his second quality start, you know, in a row.

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Um, he gave us four good ones against South and then he gave us five good

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ones and, and battled through it.

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Wanted that fifth inning and we let him go back out there and he did a good job.

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So.

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That's progress, uh, on that.

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And we just gotta find a way to get, you know, kuski back going because,

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you know, he's, he's just getting hit.

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Um, it's, I've never seen a guy get hit like, with, with good

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stuff that gets hit like that.

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Yeah.

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That first inning Thursday was, it was kind of nuts.

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'cause you look up, it's like six hits and a bunch of runs and you're like,

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man, and like you said, the stuff looks good and it's just getting smoked.

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And it, it was really nice to see him fight back and work through

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and, and, and get you a long start.

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Uh, because yeah, that's obviously not a thing that's been happening,

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so it's, it was nice to see.

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And you hope that he builds on that part of the game, not the first

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inning.

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Yeah, totally.

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I hope so.

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You know, he's gotta find a way to, to get through those, those first two innings.

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One of those first two are getting them every time, you know, and maybe

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if he can get through that, um, he can get, get some, get some work.

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But, so yeah, like we, you know.

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I liked our, our lineup better, obviously with F in it.

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Mm-hmm.

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Scotty Young I thought had a pretty productive weekend.

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Um, and although Nick didn't really do much offensively, he robbed a couple extra

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base hits in center field and, you know, that's just like an RBI in in my book.

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Mm-hmm.

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I mean, when you're a premium defender, um, you know, he's running out there

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like Spider-Man up on that wall.

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Yeah, he was, yeah.

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He, um, he's just a work in progress as a hitter.

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He is gonna be fine.

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I think he just is young and gotta get stronger and gotta, gotta

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work on his approach at the ball in the middle of the field more.

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And he does work on it and uh, you know, I told him in the, you know, you gotta

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get your bunts down and you gotta play good defense and you're gonna play,

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you know, a bunch the rest of the year.

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'cause we need that in center.

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Um, and, um, you know, getting to Zedalis in the third allows us to get f in that.

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That DH spot, which, which mm-hmm.

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You know, helps us now, Scotty, I thought Scotty Young played good.

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You know, he got hit in the head on Saturday and, and has,

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you know, had some concussion symptoms, so we had to take him out.

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Mm-hmm.

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Um, it probably won't play tomorrow 'cause of that.

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We're hope to get him back for the, you know, for the weekend.

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And, and I think we will.

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Um, hopefully.

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Well, it's like my mom said, it hit him in the head.

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It didn't hit anything that was gonna hurt anything.

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Yeah.

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I know.

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Yeah.

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I, I talked to him after the game, just asked him how he was doing.

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He said he was good for a while until the noise and then he felt like

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he got flash banged a little bit.

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So, uh, 'cause he, he stayed in and ended up scoring, uh, later

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in the inning after he got hit.

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But yeah, I don't think the symptoms showed up till later.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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That's often the case with those, those getting hit.

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And I, and I think it glanced him just enough, you know, you turn enough, so,

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yeah.

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Usually when it knocks your helmet off like that, it glances you enough that.

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It, it's not a direct

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mm-hmm.

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Hit because those are the worst ones.

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Um, there are none of 'em are good.

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I know, but

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no, always scary.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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So tomorrow,

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yeah.

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The kid for Southern, miss the catcher that got popped in the chin,

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I mean, he was still, he had had big bandage on even on Saturday.

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He didn't, he didn't get any hits and then, then we got hit in the chin and Dr.

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Home Run is next step.

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Whatcha doing?

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Like, you know,

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um, oh, it's going.

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But he, uh, so tomorrow I think, um, we'll probably, you know, trying to give Max's

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catching all three games on the weekends.

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We're trying to give him a blow on, on the week.

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I think we'll catch, uh, Jack Slater tomorrow.

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Uh, his hamstring seems to be better and Jack has just got

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back in time to hit today.

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He had to go take his.

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Physical fitness test in Richmond for a secret service.

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Oh yeah.

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That's

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great.

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I

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think it's, um, max pushups in a minute.

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Max Situps in a minute, and then you gotta run a mile and a half for time.

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So, um, he did the, he drove to Richmond last night.

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Did that this morning.

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Drove back and, uh, it was pretty gasped by the time we got back, I'm sure.

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Probably so after that.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Well, you're talking about Mac, I mean, there was the, the most important

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thing that happened all weekend is.

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You get two quick outs to start the inning.

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You call time and go talk to Mac, and then he hits a tank in the left field.

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Everybody wants to know.

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What did you tell him?

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What did you tell him?

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Coach?

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I blew a little magic pixie dust on him.

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We were laughing about it because after he hit the home run, uh,

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their third baseman's a great kid.

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We were buried.

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He's an Alabama kid, grew up not too far from Auburn.

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So we always talk about that when we play them.

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But, um, he said, what'd you, did you tell him, coach?

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You tell him hit a home run?

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I said, I, yes I did.

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He said, that's good coaching.

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That's

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good.

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Coach you.

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Well, uh, that's great.

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You know, Mav made one pitch out after, after that we had a long inning and, or

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that, or that was the second actually.

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I think Mav made the second out maybe.

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And it was about a three pitch inning at that point.

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And I called Tom 'cause our pitcher probably needed to blow.

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I said, look man.

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I know they think we're, we're standing here talking about take a strike,

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but it might be the best one you get, but if you get one, don't miss it.

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Yeah.

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Be on it.

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Hook one.

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Pitch one, get it out.

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Yeah.

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And if you miss it, hit it off the key dog right there.

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Don't be laying on it.

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And then he did miss it, man.

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He hit it over the bleachers.

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Did he?

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Or into the bleachers.

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Yeah.

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Um, it looked like it went just over the top railing too.

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I mean, that, that's, that's the home runs we've seen from Mac.

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They're just laser beams getting out of there.

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Yeah,

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yeah, yeah.

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So, hey, you, you told him if you, if you see the pitch, you like don't miss it.

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And he did

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not.

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He was laughing when he came around third he said, I said, good job man.

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You didn't, that's fun when guys.

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Trust themselves enough to take shots like that.

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Yeah.

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That's cool.

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And Matt got the barrel, he is getting the barrel out front better now.

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I, I think he's coming along.

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He's, I expect him to drive some balls this second half of the season.

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Mm-hmm.

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Even more so.

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I really believe he'll,

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he's pumped that average up over the last couple weeks.

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I mean, I was, I was surprised when it popped up on the scoreboard this weekend.

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He was hitting well over 300 and like, okay, max Max's coming together.

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'cause he's got the power for sure.

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You know, sometimes you forget, you know, he, he was at, um,

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Liberty has a great season.

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Just like you expect, you know, he is a good ball player then, you know,

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okay, I'm going to UNC big time and a CC and doesn't get to play a lot.

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Doesn't have a lot of success in the time.

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I'm sure for a guy who's never failed in his life, that's gotta

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rock your ego a little bit.

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It,

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yeah, it

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takes a little bit, I think, to come back from it, so, yeah.

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It's good to see him being himself.

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Yeah, it is.

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He's, he is a great kid.

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He is a, he is a great teammate.

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He is a great competitor.

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Um.

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You know, he's, he's, he's really starting to, to get that swing down.

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So I'm really happy to see that.

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I think there's a lot of power potential in there.

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Um, you know, he just was a little bit long and around the

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ball and he is starting to get that barrel out to the front.

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You know, BP now, we just call it kill the third basement.

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I go, I want you to just like send the third bases up there and just kill him.

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And, uh, he, he does,

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he, he is the guy when I'm taking pictures in, in the ODU u

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dugout, I am always very nervous.

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Yeah.

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' cause he will hit those line drives.

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Like he would put a hole through my chest like a superhero.

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Yeah.

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I mean, he, and, and I think that gives us the chance to, with those guys,

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we gotta get mad going to get him.

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Mm-hmm.

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I didn't think he had a great weekend.

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I mean, he hit the, he hit the one home run, but, um, he's got, we gotta get him.

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Back on track.

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And I, I think he will, he is been a guy that, you know, in April and May has

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really hit for us in the past two years.

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So, fully expect him to keep doing that.

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Um, and if all those guys, you know, swing the bats, like they're capable

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of it, it allows you to absorb a, a defensive player like, like Nick

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Felton, who's maybe not gonna mm-hmm.

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You know, get a bunch of hits right now.

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Uh, he's gotta have competitive at bats and move runners

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and, and play great defense.

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So I like, I like the, the thought of that anyway.

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Yeah.

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Uh, when's the last time Cole McKenna played left field?

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I know he ended up getting subbed in late in the third game because of the injuries

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and things hitting it going on, but, uh, I heard Nick giving him good coaching,

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uh, when he was warming him up out there.

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Yeah,

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he, um, yeah, he, he, he's, we've been working him out there

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in center and mostly in center.

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But we, I wanted him to play left 'cause the sun was.

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At that point it was tough and center.

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And if you haven't been out there, that can get you.

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Mm-hmm.

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Yeah.

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And he, you know, he got the one ball and caught it fine.

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And so that was good.

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Yeah, he's a good runner.

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Um, you know, it just gives you another defensive, you know, option

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when games kind of get weird like that you play a, I I, I, yeah, probably

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should have had him in there instead of Siegel the ending before, but mm-hmm.

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I thought with the right end maybe we'd get Siegel in that bat and

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he ended up striking out, but,

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so Yeah.

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And, and, and Scotty got whacked in the back of the head.

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That was, you can't foresee that.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Changes, you know, that was unfortunate.

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'cause it would've been nice to have him hit in those spots too.

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So, um, but it is what it is and, you know, we drop, we gotta,

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you know, I mean it's after this weekend, you're halfway through the.

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The conference schedule.

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So

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yeah,

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you're gonna have to find a way to win some series to get

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in that tournament for sure.

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And we, we know that.

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Um, but if we can play like that the last two days

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mm-hmm.

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Then you're gonna find yourself in those positions.

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That's not a given, but you're capable of it.

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And that's what we talked about.

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I want the guys to keep their heads up.

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Um, you know, just, you, you just gotta find ways to, to play good baseball.

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And, and we did that those two days.

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So, you know, we went one-on-one.

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Um, but we played good baseball and I, I can live with that.

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Yeah.

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I think I said that, you know, at the end I was like, this is one of the

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first games we've lost all year, where you go like, Hey, we lo we just lost.

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Yeah.

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A lot of the games we've lost, it's like, man, we gave this away

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and just got our heads beat in.

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Yeah.

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And this is one, it's like, Hey, you know what?

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They just, they beat us today just a little bit better in this one.

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Yep.

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And you know, you can handle a lot easier I think when you lose

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and you played really, really well and it just didn't work out.

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Yep.

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No doubt.

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I, I agree with you, cb, that's, um, that's a hundred percent the way I feel.

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So, and, and, and people just don't get that, that haven't

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really coached or played much.

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It's like, yeah, it's hurts to lose, but

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yeah.

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It, it hurts worse when you play crappy.

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Um, yeah.

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Or you know, it, it, it, it, it is really about how you play

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because that's what lasts mm-hmm.

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You know, over the course of a season.

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And, um, we've had plenty of ups and downs on that, and sometimes

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you're just not good enough.

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I think Tuesday, you know, that was the case.

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I mean, they just a lot better us right now.

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Um, so you just gotta move on from that one.

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Uh, you know, people don't like to hear that, but it's the reality.

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Talk about team that's got, you know, who knows how much money on that field.

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Yeah.

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Oh, insane amount.

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It is what it is.

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So, um, that doesn't mean you can't beat 'em on the right day if

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you're cooking on all cylinders.

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We weren't, but we came back and played a, you know, and now having said that,

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you guys watched all four of those games.

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That's where the rankings are skewed, right?

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Like Virginia's a way better team than Southern misses.

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Yeah.

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It was fascinating to me.

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They put 'em out this morning and they still, most, pretty much all of them

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still had UVAA few steps behind and, and coastal a few steps behind Southern miss.

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It's like, all right.

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That's, uh, an interesting take.

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I guess I'm taking

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anything away from Southern.

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No, they're a very good team.

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Team, yeah,

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absolutely.

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I just think from a, on the field talent wise, yeah, I, I would say that,

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I mean, you talk about a team with maybe three big leaguers as opposed to,

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you know, that, but that's, you know, and that's just, that's how I feel.

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So, um, we haven't played coach to yet, so I don't, I don't know,

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but I thought Virginia was by far the, you know, the best team.

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We played talent, talent wise this year for sure.

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So, and around the league you're seeing everybody, you know, um, south out.

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You know, finally broke Coastal's 34 game.

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Yeah.

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Winning Streak was something ridiculous like that.

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Never was.

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Yeah.

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A million games in a row.

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They won in the Sunbelt Concrete Uhhuh.

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Uh, and they whacked them pretty good on, on, uh, yeah, on that game, you

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know, after Coastal, I think might have 10 run them the first game.

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And then I think Coastal walked him off in game three.

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So it was another good, good game.

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Um, the South's pretty good, you know?

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And then, um, I mean, I, I saw JMU Beat Louisiana won that series, that

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Coastal Media was some interesting

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stuff going

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on.

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Oh, that, yeah.

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One old game.

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He had some, some fighting, some objections.

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He had all kinds of stuff happening in there.

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Yeah.

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It was like wwf, right?

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Like yeah.

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Yeah.

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Your boy, your boy Ike

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getting in

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it.

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And Gene Anderson coming off the top rope man.

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I was like, woo.

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Um, so, and then the M'S coach got thrown out and went berserk.

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Yeah.

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Against Georgia State.

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Uh, I didn't see what the other, um, well, Appalachian beat Marshall

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at home, two out of three, I think.

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Um, mm-hmm.

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So there were, there were some interesting games.

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Um, for sure.

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It's wild when you look at the standings.

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You got coastal 11 and ones Yeah.

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Safe in one, three games in the standing separate second from last.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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So you could literally have, if you go and sweep somebody in a

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weekend, you could go from 14 to two.

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Yeah.

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I mean, it's the, I it's crazy.

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Yeah.

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There's no doubt.

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It's, um, so it's, you know, and, and that's the thing you

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want the guys to understand, like

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mm-hmm.

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You know, you're four and eight, but a couple, couple, two out

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of threes and Yeah, you're right back in the, in the, in the deal.

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So.

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Uh,

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quickly,

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you know, Marsh's got good pitching, uh, especially on Friday that, that left.

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He's been there for 40 years.

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Yeah, he, uh, he's tough.

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Seventh year senior.

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Yeah, but he's good.

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And you're gonna have to play good.

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He's good.

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But we have beaten him before.

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Last time we went there, yes.

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He threw on Saturday and we won that game, like, I don't know, four

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to two or four to one close game.

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But we, we won it.

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And um, you know, so, you know, playing, playing anybody at

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home is always a good challenge.

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So gotta go up, go up there, you know, play well.

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But we got, uh, we'll get, we'll get a bunch of guys in the game tomorrow night

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and we marry and try to get looped up for the weekend and hopefully keep everybody

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healthy, you know, and, and I think we leave early, early Thursday morning to

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drive over to Huntington and, you know, hopefully get a good workout in over there

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Thursday evening and get ready to roll.

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There

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go.

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Um, what do you, any ideas on, uh, pitching for William and Mary?

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Are you going just kind of an ending a pop?

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You Hubble who, what you thinking there?

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We're gonna start Lanford.

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Okay.

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Um, get him back on the horse.

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Yeah.

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And um, you know, we need 'em to just go as long as he is effective.

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I think three innings probably be the max, but like to see him and Hubble

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try to cover some of that game for us, um, and get us into it certainly.

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And, you know, um, then, then some of the relievers that need to get

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out there, you know, maybe an ending a piece and too so they can have

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more flexibility for the weekend.

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So normal, normal midday stuff and or midweek stuff for sure.

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Yeah.

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Cole really feels like a guy you can build with to the future.

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You, you know, he is, I mean, obviously working back from some stuff last year

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with a brain injury and things like that, but he just, he's got kind of some,

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some fi We know he is got some fire.

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We know he is got some stuff.

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He, so those guys, you really, him and Ante is a kid too.

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Every time he comes to the game, I'm like, God bless this kid.

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You can get, get all this to be together, man.

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There, there's some arms.

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Yeah.

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I mean, and they're all freshmen, so you'd like to, you know, uh, Cole and and MJ are

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richer freshmen, but they're all freshmen.

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So you, you, you like the, the thought of that, it, it is just

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the consistency, like, you know

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Yep.

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Talking to Cole, like you can't be really good, crappy, really good crappy.

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Mm-hmm.

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Like, we don't know.

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Like we gotta know what we're getting out there.

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And that's part of being young without a doubt.

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But he is a good competitor.

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He is a great kid.

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Um, and when he's got it going.

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You know, um, then that's good.

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Now the two, two times he's really thrown, well, were at Troy and at South Alabama.

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Mm-hmm.

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And we were down by, you know, five or six runs in both of those.

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So don't be that guy.

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That can only throw a good one.

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The cow.

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Yeah.

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Like we need you to be good when it matters too.

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Um, and that's part of growing up and just being tough.

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And, uh, I think those are just part of the learning curve.

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So hopefully, you know, he'll give us a good start tomorrow

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and, but we need to see that, you know, 89 90 with a cutter and

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mm-hmm.

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Can't be 84, 85 like it was the other day.

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His his entrance song.

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Yeah, his entrance song has been stuck in my head since I've heard it.

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I had just gotten it out from the last home saying that queen of my double wide

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trailer song, it just, it stuck in here.

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It will not come out like I've listened to it, I've tried.

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So thanks for that call.

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Appreciate it.

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Well, if you know, I mean, it is very apropos, so.

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Yeah.

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I thought

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that Well then, and then Maddox Jack too.

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Yeah.

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I mean, he's

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really looking good thought.

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Yeah.

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That was some electric stuff coming out there.

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Yeah.

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Um, and, and that's, that's in him, you know, max is one of those kids.

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Super nice kid.

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He's just gotta get bigger when he is pitching.

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Yeah, that's fair.

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He is always smiling.

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It's true.

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And I, and I think, I think Ryno said after he threw Thursday.

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Where's that guy been?

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And he said something like that, that's the old Maddox.

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And he goes, well bring him every time.

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New guy.

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Bring the old.

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So I mean, these, these kids, you know, I, I think the, it's that part of it.

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I can't remember.

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Maybe 18.

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We had a bad year that year and mm-hmm.

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But we threw a bunch of young guys, a lot, a lot

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of young guys.

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Yeah.

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Because we had two injuries and whatever, but those guys were, ended up being

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the backbone or very important parts.

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You know, Ryan Moore, hunter Gregory.

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Mm-hmm.

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Jason Hartline.

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Those guys were really important parts of that 21 team.

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Yeah.

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And they had to go out there and get their brains beat in for a

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year to figure out how not to.

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Right.

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I think that 18 team had like seven or eight guys that needed arm surgeries.

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I mean, that was a, a

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rough

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year.

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Yeah, it was a bunch of them.

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Yeah.

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And we, and we've had some weird arm injuries like that this year.

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Yeah.

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A little bit of, of a similar scenario.

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So, um, but yeah, those kids are doing fine.

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They just gotta keep working and their attitude's been good and you know, it'll

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be fun to watch them continue to progress.

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For sure.

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Yeah.

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Absolutely.

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Yeah.

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Well, we're definitely looking forward to it.

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Uh, game up at William and Mary on Tuesday, then normal

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Friday, Saturday, Sunday series.

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They can stop messing us up when we're trying to talk about

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these games up at Marshall.

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ESPN Plus will have all the broadcast, uh, we'll be, be tuning in, uh,

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looking forward to just, uh, I I felt good leaving there after

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Saturday, even though it was a loss.

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Mm-hmm.

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And I haven't had that this year, at least after a loss anyway.

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No, me neither, Gary.

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Yeah.

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Um, on the, on the good note, you know, we, Ken not allowed

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to talk about it on here.

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We got a big commitment from a, a really good left-handed hitting

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shortstop, junior college kid.

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Hey, about that.

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And, uh, you know, we got some more coming in.

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So, um, you know, we're, uh, we're working hard on that.

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Uh,

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all right.

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And the Valley Corps can get moving.

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They, they can help us by getting that stadium done.

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Yeah.

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Yes.

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Oh, and, uh, you know, after the game on Saturday, it was kids

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run the bases and autographs.

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I think that's always a good way for the guys to kind of get centered

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and kinda get back in touch with some reality after a tough series.

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Uh, so it was great and pretty much every single guy stayed out

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there, signed, made the kids' day.

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I saw 'em waving guys around third base telling 'em to go home.

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So, you know, it's still de despite everything that's going

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on with the stadium, I mean, it's still an awesome fan experience.

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Yeah.

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Uh, I also really, like on the game on Friday when it started getting

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really tight there in the ninth inning, the crowd came to life and kind of

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got the energy back up on the field.

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So, uh, did they Yes.

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They were getting loud out there because I was, that was the

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first time outside of a home run.

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I had heard them get loud all game.

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Uh, so yeah, give them, give them credit.

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We appreciate it.

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I can't hear it at all, but I, we,

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yeah.

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Yeah.

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And there's a, there are times, man, there is no question that

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having a good home crowd helps you.

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Yeah.

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And you know, it's not no one, I mean, it's not anybody's

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fault that they're out there.

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Right.

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They're trying, they're, and it's great, um, when the right on top

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of the players is when it really

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mm-hmm.

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Really can help you Yeah.

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And hurt the other team.

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Um,

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yeah.

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When the other team can hear everything the random frat bros were saying

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to him, it really helps a lot.

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Right?

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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For sure.

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Uh, but, you know, and Marshall's a good example of that, man.

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They're, they're, they built their stadium the right way.

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Like the, the, and ours is that way.

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I think the seats are very close to the field.

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Mm-hmm.

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When, you know, like, uh, and you know, the dugout and, and everything.

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Um, some places build 'em so far away, like South Allen, Troy, the stands are so

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far away, it doesn't really bother you.

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Mm-hmm.

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Our place when it's full is gonna be, they're gonna be on top of you.

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Um, between the new area at ground level that goes all the way around.

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Mm-hmm.

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The, the chair backs are right on top of the dugout.

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You got rally alley down there.

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It, it's going to get, um, you know, it can get, I think it's gonna

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get suffocating in there and loud.

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Um, ENC closed and all of that.

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You know, it's also always been open, so no matter how many people

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fell in their noises everywhere when it's enclosed, that matters.

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Yeah.

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So we're excited about that as well.

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Uh, for sure in the future.

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Yeah.

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Surround them with sound and then just

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that pressure.

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Yeah.

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Marshall can have a thousand people in there and it feels

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like it's a lot and it's loud.

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Mm. And and I think that's, that's what you want, you know?

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Yeah.

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Um, so where some of these other places could have, you know, a thousand people

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in there can't, it doesn't matter.

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It's, it's a,

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it look like South Alabama could get a thousand over the whole season.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I know.

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I mean, I just saw what I saw on tv.

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I don't know, I, maybe I had perspective.

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No, they weren't big crowds.

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Uh, any of those three days for sure.

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Shame,

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uh, at all.

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Yeah, I know.

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'cause they got a good ball club.

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Maybe they'll start coming out here.

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Yeah.

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You know, 'cause they're winning some so they hopeful you'd like to see that.

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Go watch college baseball man.

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It's awesome

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guys.

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Yeah, it is awesome.

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It awesome.

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Alright.

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I know you got f uh, coming on and we're real happy.

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He's back in there and.

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He is a great kid, great competitor, and um, we hope he can stay

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healthy the rest of the season so we can keep him in the lineup.

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Yes,

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absolutely.

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All right, well Finn, thanks so much for your time.

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Appreciate it.

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Good luck this week and we'll be uh, cheering you on.

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Alright guys, go Monarchs.

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Thank you.

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Go Monarchs.

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Go Monarchs.

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Thanks Blaine.

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Uh,

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hey, Blaine, on the radio when I was driving home, he was, uh,

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talking about, he said he was meeting with Dan Hudson today.

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He's, uh, we meeting people.

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Yeah.

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And I was like, yeah, Huddy.

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So maybe we will get some, uh, get some, uh, donation

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bucks for baseball from Huddy.

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Yeah.

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One of

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the best guys on the planet.

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Yeah.

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Fellow, fellow classmate of mine from, uh, from back in the day of 2009.

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Uh, another thing I wanna plug too, related to the ODAF piece, uh, Aaron

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and Mike, uh, on the Monarchist channel, put out an interview today

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with Dr. Ron Moses talking about a lot of things are gonna be changing

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for the athletic department, including Monarchs Plus, which is coming out soon.

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Uh, but it's, it's us weaponizing rev share NIL to try to flood as much money.

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Support everything you can into these athletic teams, including baseball,

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football, basketball, you name it.

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Uh, we're trying to, trying to just up the game a little bit, so

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it's a good one to go listen to.

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Dr. Moses does much better than I do talking about it, and he knows all the ins

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and outs, but I, I think you're gonna see some changes in a very good way for this

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athletic department over the next year.

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Now when I, you say Monarchs plus, I think of like Disney plus.

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Do we have a a, a baby Yoda?

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Maybe we need like a baby blue.

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We need like a little puppet, like baby blue that we can get around.

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He can be adorable and just coo at every Ooh, oh, only do that.

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And then that's, that's money.

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That's all I'm saying.

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We can do it.

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We can make our, uh.

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The Monarch, the Monarch Laurean, and Baby Blue.

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I feel like Aaron Zelensky is a good candidate for all Blue Body paint and

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he can be blue monarchy OTA there.

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Yes, be good.

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There we go.

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I'm into it.

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Uh, so yeah, so that's my plug.

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Go, go check out that episode if you listen to this one.

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'cause baseball's definitely gonna be impacted in a very positive way by it.

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Yes.

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Yeah, Ron Moses is on point.

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The dude is, uh, about it.

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He's about that

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life.

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He's, he is awesome.

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And obviously we are very much involved there as well, the best we can.

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But speaking of people coming in and making a positive impact, yes, we

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bring on our player guest this week, Efrain Morales, who has returned

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to a monarchs lineup this weekend.

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There he is.

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Welcome to the show.

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How's doing, how you guys doing,

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buddy?

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Good.

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Very good.

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Yeah.

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Glad you're here man.

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How you feeling?

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I know you're a little, little nicked up.

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I think it was, was a hand injury to kind of start the year a

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little bit.

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Yeah, yeah.

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Um, my TFCC was, uh,

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mm-hmm.

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Uh, there was a lot of built up fluid in there.

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Um, so I got swollen, so I was hurting to like snap the wrist

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there hitting a little bit.

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Yeah.

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So not good for hitting?

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No.

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Not good for hitting at all.

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No.

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Yeah.

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But no, it feels good now.

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I feel great.

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I feel a hundred percent

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good.

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Well, you could tell this weekend.

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Yeah.

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Yes, sir. I felt good.

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I mean, I felt great this weekend.

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Yes, sir. That's

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all.

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It's, I, I mentioned that to Finn.

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I was like, it's just a whole different energy when you're in the ball game.

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It's number one, just what you do with the plate.

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All you're hitting, but then just how you are, just as a lot of like.

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Upbeat energy that just, it feels a lot more excitable when you're in the game.

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No doubt.

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Thank you.

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I mean, that's just who I am as a, as a player.

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I just love to bring out the energy.

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No doubt.

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What about that?

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Uh,

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well, one of my favorite pictures from the weekend was this one right here.

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Like three runs coming in on Tyler's analysis, double in the gap, and you

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and TJ just getting fired up there at the plate as we take the lead.

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Yeah.

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Let me tell you, I think me and TJ both blacked out right there.

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I'm gonna be honest.

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I

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believe

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it.

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I mean, we both were just super hyped up there.

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Um, I, I'll have to see if I

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can make a, uh, a GIF out of that.

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'cause that's, the whole series was pretty good.

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Yeah,

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no doubt.

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It was.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Well, tell us a little bit about this weekend.

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I mean, you know, things don't start off well with that first game, but

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looks like a different team comes in, you get the big two out rally and

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then just really kind of came down to the end there in the final game.

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But how are you feeling throughout this weekend?

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I mean, I feel great.

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I feel like we did a, I feel like we did a great job.

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I think we should be proud of ourselves.

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I mean, unfortunately, yeah, we wanted to win that series, of course.

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Um, but I feel like we can look forward into like, I think

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we took a step, uh, for sure.

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And I think we're gonna be good going into the conference games coming up for sure.

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It felt like a different energy.

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You know, after the game on Friday you get the win.

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Obviously everyone is hyped up, but when I got there a little bit early for the

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game on Saturday and like, there was still just like a lot of confidence, a lot

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of positivity guys with their heads up.

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Yeah.

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I mean, were you kind of feeling that between games?

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I mean, no doubt.

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I feel like we're like, even if we're, if we're down, I mean, I feel like, like

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there's, like with our attitude as a team, I feel like we can always come back.

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I mean, um, and for that to happen we're gonna have, we have to have to keep

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our heads up and have the energy up.

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So.

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So you've been, uh, playing different positions this year.

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I know you were

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Yeah.

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Working out at second base that had, that hadn't really happened in the, in

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the games here, but you've been playing some outfield here during the season.

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How's that been going for you?

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It's been going well.

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It's been going well.

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Um, I know that I haven't been out there a lot.

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Um, I mean, I've been, I've been hurt, of course.

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Um, but it's been going well.

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I feel like I've, I've gotten a lot better out there.

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I've, of course, I CB see me play some second base Yeah.

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In the fall.

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You did alright.

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Yeah, I was not, I was like, okay, this is fine.

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I mean, it was for sure, it was for sure a challenge.

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Um, but I always looked forward to those.

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It was a lot of fun for sure.

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During the fall.

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And I feel like I could be a position where I can still keep up

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and I could always train it out.

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I mean, I love to do hard things of course, so that'd be nice.

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Have you, now, I have to imagine as a guy who has been a catcher so much,

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is that something that you miss?

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I, I mean, I'm sure, I feel like most catchers like really love catching.

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No, yeah, of course.

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I, I mean, I miss it.

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Um, uh, of course, like the injuries, uh, with the two concussions,

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it's kind of a bummer, of course.

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Um, but yeah, I miss it.

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Um, uh, I mean, you are always in the game catching.

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I mean, there's no better feeling than that.

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Of course.

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So

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now, is that something you think you'll ever be able to get back to, or is

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this kind of like, Hey, you know what, just for your, for your brain and your

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life might be better off to, to avoid?

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I mean, that's a question of like, I haven't really asked my that

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question a lot, uh, as of right now.

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Um, but I mean, this, it is always something.

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I mean, of course, I mean, I still miss it, so it's always there for the table.

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I mean.

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I feel like that's something where I can go back to.

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Of course.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I mean it was that, the one series over there at War Memorial last

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year and I, I was sitting so close, I saw the backswing come and whack

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you right in the back of the head.

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I was like, you gotta be kidding me.

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I think he did just slate like the next time he was up.

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I

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know.

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Yeah.

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Same, same guy and everything.

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Yep.

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Same hitter.

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That was crazy.

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That was crazy.

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Yeah.

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But you know, going back two weeks when you were kind of getting back

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in into playing shape, getting your wrist back online, you had a couple

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pinch hit opportunities and I'm pretty sure your first one you just smoked a

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double into the gap and it just like, it felt like the team changed when

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you hit that double, like were you feeling that as you were getting those

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pinch opportunities coming back in?

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I mean, no doubt.

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I mean, I feel like my role in this team is to bring energy and, and

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of course, I mean, every time I get an opportunity to go up there.

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And to hit, I feel like I gotta bring some energy to this team

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and try and be a spark plug.

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I mean, that's something that I've always been my whole life.

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And I just like to bring energy to any team.

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I mean, and this team in particular, I mean all the guys,

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I love everybody in this team.

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So

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one thing I, it's funny, I kind of noticed this 'cause you, yeah, I

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was looking, you had four walks this week and I was like, well, I never

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thought, thought of you as a guy.

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I think of you as a guy who you kind of put the ball in play.

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You don't really strike out or walk much.

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So I looked, so last year, seven walks 130 at bats.

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So you like, kind of bears my point.

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Not a lot of walks this year.

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You got 10 walks, 51 at bats.

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So is that something you constantly worked on, is just a byproduct

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of being more confident, more comfortable as a D one hitter?

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What do you, what do you attribute to that, to you think?

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I mean, talking with H and talking with coach P and, and it's just like,

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it's just me maturing as a hitter.

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Um, I felt like last year, um, I was still this aggressive hitter.

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Like I'll swing at, at anything that was close to the plate.

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And, and this year I'm starting to learn how to pick my pitch.

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Um, um, and just like learning.

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I mean, I can't, I can't cover the whole plate.

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It's really hard as a hitter to do that.

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And it's just, I've been, I've been, uh, it's something that, I mean, you

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can't really work that on that during practice, but I mean, I definitely feel

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like I'm just maturing as a baseball player and, and that's probably the

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reason why I've been getting more walks.

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Yeah.

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'cause it doesn't seem like you're not being aggressive.

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It's just

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No,

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no.

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So it is interesting.

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I think it, I agree.

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I think it seems like just maturing and just getting better

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and you can see the strike zone.

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You know what you can and can't.

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Take and hit Well,

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exactly.

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And you foul off the other stuff.

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Yeah.

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That kind of stuff's impressive.

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It's those kind of trends where you see like, okay, that's

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showing a growth, which is nice.

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Which is, thank you, thank for, for, for you, when you've had some,

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I mean, last year, you know, you probably got your season cut by

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about a third at the end, right?

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From getting injured, and then this year cut your season by almost a third,

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getting injured in the beginning.

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So, I mean, being able to grow when you're not in the field is impressive.

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Yep.

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No doubt.

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And as I think it's just like, even when, when you're not in there and you're hurt,

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I feel like you could always do something.

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I mean, as a baseball player, like you can always like get

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on the machine and like mm-hmm.

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And like, just like work on time and you don't have to swing the bat.

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That's something that, that you can do when you're hurt.

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And that's something that I did of course too.

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So.

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Oh, I, I see you running around there, whether you're in the game or not, or

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just ding, like you're running past me on the wall pretty frequently.

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I mean,

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yeah, yeah.

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Do, do you pop in the cage when you're in that DH role?

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Like if there's gonna be a long inning or something?

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Uh, so what I do is like, usually when, like we're warming up, um, or something

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like that, I feel like if I'm ding I feel like I have to move around.

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'cause I feel like, like I have to stay in the game.

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And the, the only way I can do that is by moving around.

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Um, I usually grab A-P-A-P-P-C pipe and like stretch out, try and like stay

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loose and like, I just feel like when I'm ding I can't, if I get cold, then

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I feel like I'm outta the game and I just gotta stay warm the whole time.

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That's just what I feel.

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Yeah, that always made sense to me as a dh.

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You shouldn't just be sitting there.

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But the only time I ever saw that work was, um, I saw David Ortiz in spring

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training toward the end of his career.

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He was in like, yeah, he was playing in the backfield in a, in a double A game.

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And he, they were playing the twins who he had originally signed with, and so mm-hmm.

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He was sitting actually in the twins dugout with the coaches that he

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knew 'cause he had played with them.

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And so he'd like just sit there and talk to him during the inning.

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That was his time to go up and bat against their pitcher.

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He'd go up, hit a, a home run off of the guy, and then came back and the dad was

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sitting next to him the next half inning.

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But yeah, so he, that's a guy, you know.

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Yeah.

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Once you're at Dave Ortiz's level Yeah.

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You can sit there and just talk.

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Yeah,

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exactly.

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Go up and hit.

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I mean, but yeah, I agree with you.

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Yeah, no doubt.

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No doubt.

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I feel like it's also like a, like some people can do it, some people can do

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it and some people can't, you know?

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Yeah.

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I feel, I feel like I'm the type of baseball player that

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that has to be moving around.

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Um, but there's some, there's some guys that are just like the chill vibe

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ones that just, that, that could hit and go sit back right in the dugouts.

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But I'm definitely not one of those, I can tell you

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that.

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No, you're not.

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You're no chill with Rin, huh?

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No.

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Gotta be moving around echelons constantly.

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No, I feel like you're itching.

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Just go like, sneak into left field and tell somebody else

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to go sit down real quick.

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That's what I feel like.

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No doubt.

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I always wanna be in the game.

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Yeah.

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Have you hit in the two hole before, like on a pretty regular basis?

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I have not, no, I have not.

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Um, maybe like in 14 U 15 U, but, um mm-hmm.

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Ever since, I mean, during high school I was never a two hole.

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Um, I was usually like, uh, I, I, I think I've been like, um, a one

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hole, or like at P 27, I was like, I mean our team was really good.

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Like, I was like in the bottom of the lineup, uh, at P 27.

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So

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that must have been a good lineup if you were down on the bottom of it there.

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Well, we got a few more, we got a few, uh, blacksmiths on the way too, right?

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Yeah.

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We got two on the way.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, we got two.

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It

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is, it is, it is

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opening up the pipeline.

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Well, w with you and the two all, I feel like our one through three is really solid

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and knows the strike zone really well.

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I mean, like tj, I feel like he knows it inside and out.

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I know the umpires were talking to him about us tapping the top of his helmet

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after one of the calls on Friday.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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And, and then of course Zach, like, I mean, I think he sees the ball

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exceptionally well from the left side.

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Uh, are you able to get pretty good reads off of like TJ's

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at bat and start off games?

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Uh, yeah, no doubt.

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I mean, TJ usually always works, uh, the bat, uh, very well.

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Um, so I'm able to see like what's the pitcher sequence and, and I get

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to see like, like TJ always works the counts, I feel, and I feel like he

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gets every single pitch 'cause they're always trying to work, um, around him.

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Of course.

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Um, so I mean, I feel like I, I'm in a good spot 'cause he's

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always, he's always having good at bats, which is the good thing.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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So I know last summer you were supposed to play for Charlottesville, obviously

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didn't want to do that, you know, have recovering from the concussions.

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What did you do during the summer to, to work out and, and keep yourself ready?

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Uh, during the summer?

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I mean, I just, I have this, uh, place, uh, like back at home.

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It's like this like little barn that has batting cages and, and a weight room.

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Um, and all I do is just like go in there every day.

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Um, I mean, my dad would be, my dad is like always feeding

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me, uh, off the machine.

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And, um, and then like lifting wise and all that, I went to like, um, this place

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that's like just supposed to train and make you faster in that because I feel

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like it's something I need to work on.

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Um, and that's all I did.

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And then I came here during the summer for a whole month.

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Okay.

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So I was one month at home, one month here.

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Are you faster?

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I feel like I am.

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All right.

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So that's that.

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I like that answer.

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'cause that wasn't a, like no, but I feel like

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no.

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Yeah, yeah.

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Yeah.

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Imagine not having all the wear and tear of catching on a daily basis.

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It's gotta be making your legs feel fresh anyway.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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My legs feel a lot, uh, they, they are a lot more fresher than they

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were last year, I will say that.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Just getting that into the, the power behind your swing, I feel

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like it's more than anything.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Uh, so you, you spent a month on campus.

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Was that kinda the first summer month that you've been here?

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I can't remember if you were here before the fall last year.

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No.

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My, my freshman year I was, I was here, uh, we stayed in the dorms all summer.

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I think we, we came here in June.

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Okay.

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Um, and then we went back home in August for like two weeks.

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But I was here, uh, my freshman year, uh, during the summer

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coming into the, the school.

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You feel?

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You got

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pretty good.

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Who are you?

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Uh

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oh, go ahead.

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I was gonna say, who are you rooming with this year?

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Uh, I'm rooming with, uh, Ben Tannin and Nick Felton.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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That seems, it seems like a, a pretty quiet, chill house.

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I feel like there's

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not

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a

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lot

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of

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noise

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in the house.

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It's very chill house.

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Yeah, it's

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a very chill house.

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I feel like you guys go to other people's houses, they don't come to yours.

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Yeah, we do go to other people's houses, but no, it's a vibe in our house though.

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We're always playing music.

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Yeah.

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Um, but it's definitely a vibe in our house.

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But yeah, we definitely be, do, uh, go inside.

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So

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I wanna say a clean house too.

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Right?

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You guys probably all pretty

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clean.

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It's a very clean house.

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Yes.

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Yeah.

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Okay.

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I don't wanna call you guys a bunch of nerds, but like, you just, all,

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all three of you guys are, are pretty quiet, pretty just like polite guys.

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Like, I just don't see a lot of like nonsense.

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We've had a few other ones where it's like, oh yeah, I bet that house is messy.

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Yeah, our house is clean.

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It's funny.

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Yeah.

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Well, when you're not in baseball and you're not in classes and all

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that stuff, like, what have you found as kind of your fun things

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to do down in Norfolk and 7, 5, 7?

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Um, definitely like, uh, hanging around with the guys.

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Um, and something I like to do is just like.

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Sit, like, uh, you know, where like Whitehurst area

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is, like at the beach area.

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Mm-hmm.

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I like Whitehurst.

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Just sit there and just watch the beach.

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I mean, just relaxing.

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Yeah.

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Um, the

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beach at like sunset is like, that's, that's a whole activity,

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especially the sunset's here.

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I mean, they're, they're good.

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Like there's some good sunsets here.

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Solid.

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Yeah.

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Nah,

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yeah.

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Especially

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it's a underrated little romantic spot.

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Just, just throwing that out there.

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It's gonna be away for about 20 years now at least.

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No doubt.

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Yeah.

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Um, but yeah, just going to the beach as well is always something.

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Not in the cold though.

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During the cold I probably stay in my house.

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Yeah.

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Uh, but yeah, I mean, I like to go to the beach a lot.

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Nice.

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That's awesome.

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And now, in terms of classes, I mean, what are you pointing

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at now in your second year?

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Are you, are you close to finding that major or are you just like,

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well, another semester I'll figure it

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out?

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Um, I, I don't, I don't know what I want to do.

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Uh, but as of right now, I'm in general studies.

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But, um, I don't know what I want do, uh, for my career yet.

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You wanna play baseball?

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We know you know what you wanna do.

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Of course.

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Yeah,

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yeah, yeah.

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I think, I think the key is to figure out, you know, obviously I, I believe

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the baseball career can go for a while.

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'cause you're, you're a gamer, but find a way to, to stay around baseball.

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So things that you can do that are, you know, if it's what's,

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what's gonna help with coaching.

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'cause you know, I, you seem to be the kind of guy you're gonna be on a

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baseball field the rest of your life.

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Yeah.

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That's something that I, yeah, I mean, I love baseball and I

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don't think I could get out of it.

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So there's,

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yeah, there's

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definitely gonna be some coaching in my future career.

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Yeah.

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So figure out how, what is gonna be the best thing to

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help study to make that happen?

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And let's just do that because that's, I,

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yeah,

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I don't think you're ever be, we're not gonna find f more than

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20 feet from a baseball field the rest of his life, I think.

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Yeah.

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Well, you, you have some great examples of that right now on the coach staff.

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I mean, you know, Bryce Jones was your teammate last year.

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Now he is on the team.

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You got Brandon Pond, who just recently did that.

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I mean, there's, yep.

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There's a pathway there if you want to go that route there, but

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Yep.

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There, I, I think you've got a few more years of playing after your OD days.

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Yeah,

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for sure.

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Thank you guys.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Awesome.

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Well, CB anything else for f?

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No, you know, f we're just, we're excited for you, man.

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We're excited to see you back healthy.

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I mean, that's, you know, you saw this weekend how dynamically just

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you being around changing the lineup, you know, how, how are you feeling?

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I mean, we know obviously the team is not where you wanted to be.

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How are you guys feeling?

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After this weekend, this going into, you know, pretty much the

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second half of the year here.

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I mean, I, I think that, that we're very, very hopeful.

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I mean, we, we, we showed that we can hang around the big boys.

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Like, I mean, and we're not, and we're, we're just as equally as them.

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We just haven't showed it yet.

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And that's what I feel.

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And I feel like if we can bring that energy that we had, I mean,

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how electric were the fans?

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I mean, the fans, I could like, I could hear you guys like, I mean, it was,

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I think, I think we're gonna be good.

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I mean, we definitely showed something there.

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Yeah.

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We were, we were talking to Finney about this, you know, it, you feel like

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you just, you've had a bad season, you haven't won a lot of conference games.

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Come out of this with some confidence and you go and look at the standings.

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The difference between two and the very bottom of the standings is three games.

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Yeah.

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So you're talking one, two good weekends and all of a sudden you're

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right where you wanted to be all along.

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So,

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exactly.

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I imagine the guys are feeling that, right?

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Yep, yep.

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We're all feeling, we're all feeling it.

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That's awesome.

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Well, f we appreciate you hopping on here with us.

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Yeah.

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Uh, you know, got another busy week coming up with, uh, four games on the road.

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We'll be watching.

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Yes, sir. And, uh, rooting you on.

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But thanks so much for your time.

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Thank you guys.

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Thanks ef.

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Appreciate you, man.

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Good luck.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Thanks.

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Appreciate it, buddy.

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What a good kid I am.

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Such a huge fan of that guy.

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Like that is like, if you could clone him and just have a baseball team full

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of him, man, you were, you would win some games because you would be, I mean,

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that's, we talk all the time about like what you wanna see in a hitter, right?

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You wanna see that guy who like refuses.

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To not get on base.

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Mm-hmm.

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And that's, that's his whole approach.

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It's just he's going to compete and he's going to win and he's going to,

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it's one of those where it's like, not like I'm gonna do it my way.

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It's, I'm gonna do it the way that it takes to get on base.

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And that's my way.

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And it's just really fun to watch.

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Yeah.

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And he's one of those guys, like, like Zach, when he gets in the box mm-hmm.

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Something cool is probably gonna happen.

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Yeah.

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Like, you just, you feel it, whether, even if it's simplest walk, hit by a pitch, but

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it just brings that energy to the plate, uh, that kind of builds confidence, I

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feel like, even further down the lineup.

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But if you, I mean, you look at one through four, even right now

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at the way they're hitting, I mean.

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TJ f Zach Tylers, Zedalis.

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I mean,

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yeah,

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that's a pretty potent one through four no matter who you are in the league.

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I mean, that's a,

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well, and then you're coming right after it.

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Maverick and Mac Dye.

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Yeah.

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I mean, and your, and then, you know, if you got Scotty hitting seven and Will,

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I mean, will Johnson had a, had a great, will, will, will Johnson's been hitting?

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Mm-hmm.

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Um, so I mean, you really, you know, you start again, like if you take this as

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a proof of concept, which that could, what, that's what I would call these

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last two games of this, this weekend.

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This was, you know, that when the belief we've been having every week where

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we're sitting on here and, you know, it's been a, it's a one in three week,

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but we're still sitting here like, Hey, this is what this team can do.

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And that's, that's what we saw this two games against Southern miss.

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Um, I think it's, and I think it's a cool thing about baseball too,

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is, you know, I, I don't know, I don't believe ODU football has ever.

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Beating a rank team.

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Um, I don't think we've even played that many.

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Um,

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one, I think, uh, we beat Virginia Tech many years ago at the Lake Larussa.

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They were ranked

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at that time.

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They were Okay.

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That's awesome.

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Okay, good.

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That's one.

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Okay, so it, so it happened one time.

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Okay.

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Uh, that's awesome.

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I didn't realize that.

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So, one, um, basketball, it's been a while.

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I wanna say since we, we beat a ranked team, um, we don't even play that again.

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Don't even play that many.

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But that's one of the things in baseball, pretty much every year we have at least

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a few games where we beat ranked teams.

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Um, and we've recently been ranked, you know, it wasn't that many years ago.

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We've been ranked in the top 25.

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So I think it's, it's one of those things that I think is

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just, it's, it is a big deal.

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I mean, it happens and some of our other sports have it happen too,

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but it's, you know, beating a top 25 team, a top 10 team, you know, I

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mean, obviously they play so many more games, they get more chances, but.

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It's a big deal.

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Yeah.

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I mean, so their roster is loaded.

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They're really, really good.

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Yeah.

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I mean, we, we watched 'em all this weekend.

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They got a bunch of dudes that can hit, they have a bunch of those pesky

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guys that you just can't get out.

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I mean, even a nine hole hitter.

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I, I think he had a 12 pitch at bat before he finally walked.

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Uh, just, just tough.

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But I think, you know, coming away from this weekend, guys

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have a little more confidence.

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They're feeling good, but that has to, that momentum has to continue.

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Mm-hmm.

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They have to kind of look at the way they played the last two games as that

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should be our baseline and we have the ability to get better from there.

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Yeah.

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Because, you know, you, you're gonna go up to William and Mary, they

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just beat you a couple weeks ago.

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They beat us up there last year.

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And I think winning that game, even though it's a meaningless non-conference

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game, I think would help push that momentum in the right direction.

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If it's seven to one in the fourth inning and we're losing, yeah.

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What are you gonna carry on to Marshall?

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Right.

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Um, but I feel like if you can.

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At least, you know, be in that, the one run loss something.

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Just be competitive in that game where you can keep that momentum rolling.

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'cause we really do need to go get two out of three from Marshall.

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Well,

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and we should be, well we should be with Married last time.

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We should be.

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They, I think they, we lost eight of last nine since they are seven.

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Six of the last seven since they played us like they're on a Yeah, I know.

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I think they've lost six, last seven.

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And Marshall has lost, uh, eight of the last nine.

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So, I mean, these are two teams that are down and we need to let them stay down.

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We need to take our momentum and swing it.

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Like I, you just made a great point.

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Like make that the baseline.

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Mm-hmm.

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And go out and do what you can do and beat these teams who let, let their woes

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continue and let our fortunes change.

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Yeah.

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I mean that's the, what we saw Friday, Saturday is what you and I, it's like

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what you saw in the fall, what I've seen.

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What were the expectation was.

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Maybe it just took us a little while to get there.

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Like maybe that's what it is.

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And they start rolling now.

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It's not a bad time to get going because yeah, you, you take two outta

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three the next two weekends and all of a sudden you're in the top six of the

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Sunbelt, which it just tells you how tough the freaking Sunbelt is right

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now.

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You got, you got six conference weekends, Lev like, and, and to be real, I mean,

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nobody wants to be 15 and 15 at the end it looks, it doesn't look as pretty, but 15

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and 15 probably gets you in that top six.

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So if you win five of your last six weekends, all of a

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sudden you're at 15 and 15.

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Right?

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Yeah.

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I mean it's, it's again, not the most ideal way.

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You'd rather, you'd rather win, you know, 25 games, your conference

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will look great, but you know, hey, not gonna happen where we are.

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This is mathematically impossible.

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Yeah.

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Coastal.

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I, uh, coastal's just gonna be a buzz saw this year.

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I'm, I have a 50 to one ticket on them to win the College World Series

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and I'm pretty glad I got it then.

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'cause I don't think you're getting those odds nowadays.

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Yeah.

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Well, they better enjoy it.

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Their coach is probably gonna leave at the end of the year.

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Yeah.

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What is it?

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South Carolina is already trying to make some plays there.

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Yeah, probably.

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Right?

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Why wouldn't you?

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Why, why wouldn't I, I've got way more money.

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Uh, we've got, you know, we, this tradition and facilities.

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Why wouldn't we take your coach?

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So

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there's a lot to like at South Carolina?

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There is.

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There is.

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It

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is had, if you had to ask me, who's more likely to win a national

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title in the next five years?

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It's coastal by a mile.

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But again, we know, like, as we all know, with the NIL and you've already,

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you've got the built-in a C, C or Yeah.

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Ac.

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AC or S-E-C-S-E-C.

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Yeah, they're SEC.

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Well you're, when the SEC, you're already like built.

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So I mean it's, yeah, again, I don't know.

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I don't want to take up my, you know, he will do whatever

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he wants to do with his job.

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I'm sure.

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Yeah.

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It won't, it won't hurt my feelings because I don't really care for Coastal.

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I was telling the Southern Miss players we were leaving on Saturday.

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I said, Hey, you know, at the end I hope it, if you guys

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are there, you beat Coastal.

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Uh, 'cause I'd much rather see you guys win.

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Yeah.

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'cause I like Southern miss

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also, how does Southern Miss, miss and Coastal not play each other this season?

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How the hell does that happen?

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It's, you know, yeah.

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It's those weird, you know, east West and, you know, there's too many teams

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and just kind of how it works, I guess.

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It's, uh, you can't have the, the, you would, you would think, you would have

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the, you know, which teams have been traditionally better year to year.

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You might, you should play 'em each year and help everybody in

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your RPI and, and all that stuff.

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But, you know, it's just, yeah.

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We, we all, we know the, the Sunbelt scheduling has not been

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ideal for many of the sports.

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No,

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I'm amazed.

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We get JMU last.

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We have that like rivalry in JMU and Coastal toward

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the end, the last few years.

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And it must have been an accident.

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Well, it's 'cause they screw us on it in football and basketball where like

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football we play, I think like the second or third conference weekend and

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then basketball we play over break, which, you know, nothing says rivalry,

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like no students in attendance.

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It was amazing.

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Yeah.

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The difference between like this year, the JMU game at home with like, you

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know, a third of the place full and last year when it was like packed to

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the gills and no one could get in.

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It was amazing atmosphere even though we got whipped.

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Um, yeah.

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Yeah.

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It's a, it's a shame.

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Yeah.

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Well, well we think we should pivot here real quick and talk

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about the players of the week.

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You just got to meet one spoiler.

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You did Rin Morales when Yeah.

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Spoiler alert.

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Um, it, it was one of, you know, Gary and I were, we're walking out there on,

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on Saturday and you know, you, you kind of always like have your impression in

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your head of who it is and it's like, well let's see what the stats really say.

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And we, I think we both were like, yeah, probably Efrin, uh, and yeah, he was.

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He was seven for 14, four rbis, four walks, three run, scored.

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I mean, that's a pretty great, we hit 500, have a six 11 on base.

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You're doing pretty great.

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Um, pretty

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solid.

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Yeah, Tyler of Zedalis had a nice week also.

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He was six for 13, had that big three run double, uh, had a homer.

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So five total rbis, two walks hit by pitch, scored a couple runs.

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Uh, will Johnson.

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He, he was sa he was uh, four for 11.

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Three rbis.

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Two walks hit by pitch, couple runs scored.

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Um, Scotty Young didn't have a ton.

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I think one game he didn't play in, but he was three for seven.

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A double RBI walk, hit by pitch.

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Two runs.

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Um, and Mac died not the most overwhelming numbers, but four outta 16 with a Homer.

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Uh, RBI three run score.

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So it's still solid week.

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Um.

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Yeah, go for it.

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If you had

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something, uh, did you say, I mean, max home run's obviously

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like a big impact and Yeah.

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Big on the game flow.

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Uh, you know, Ty, uh, Zach hits a home run.

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That's a big one.

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And then of course, Tyler was probably the biggest hit of the weekend.

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But I mean, Efrin being back in the lineup, all three games, I mean,

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that's, that's seven extra hits.

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That's.

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11 more times.

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Someone was on base just in three games.

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Well, we played the, actually that was including the UVA games in that game

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too, hitting a walk in that game too.

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So he was, uh, productive all week, which is, yeah, that's another factor.

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You're getting hits in all four games, you know, Hey, you're, you're doing it.

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Um, yeah, he really does just add ano another spot, another spark to lineup.

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It's, it's really great to see.

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Mm-hmm.

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Um, and JJ Gatti, I believe he won last week also, I think this is, he did

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second row in a row for him, three weeks.

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Three weeks on the year.

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And, and you know, really just because he, we had five innings, three runs,

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four hits a walk, four strikeouts.

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Uh, didn't get to win, but we did win that game.

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Um, and, you know, that's just what you needed.

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We haven't had our start.

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We know one of the big problems we've had is our pitching, starting pitching has

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been pretty bad for most of the season.

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So him having back to back weekends where he's been pretty solid.

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I mean, again, nothing amazing there, but.

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S we didn't need.

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Amazing.

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Gimme five, five innings, three runs every game in college, man.

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We're, we're, we're cooking with gas, right?

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Yeah.

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We're, we're doing something.

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All right.

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Um, so that was big.

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And Jackson Okonkwo, uh, we mentioned him too.

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Again, I think if we'd have won that game, maybe we might've,

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might've put him over the edge.

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Not his fault, but, uh, he got hit a little bit more.

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He's four innings, gave up two runs, six hits, no walks, which

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is nice, and two strikeouts.

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So he, he did really well.

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Uh, Ben Tanton, again, you know, he's, he's on the stretch.

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He's been just pitching great as a freshman.

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Uh, one in two thirds innings, uh, no runs, two hits, a walk, a strikeout, and

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Maddox Jack had another great appearance.

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The inning, a third, no runs, no hits, no walks on the strikeout.

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I mean, he's, and he looked really dominant in that appearance.

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So that's, uh, it's nice to see, you know, some of our, some of our

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guys moving in the right direction, especially some of the young guys.

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This was one of the first weekend series we've had where there wasn't

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a massive amount of pressure on the bullpen right off the bat.

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Mm-hmm.

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Yeah, because ky, even though he, you know, he got hit around a little bit.

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He did dial back in.

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I think he ended up with over 90 pitches.

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Yeah, he got us five.

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Gatty gets us five, we pitch a little backwards in the final game of the series.

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Like Sulpizio is always gonna go through the lineup just once, but

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then to get Jackson to give you four.

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So basically from your starters, you got five, five, and four.

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We've had weekends where we can't get two, two, and two.

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So

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yeah, we, we had, I think it's two weekends I think, where we didn't

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get two out of any of our starters.

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Yeah.

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So we were able to, you know, bring Bailey into that game to hold onto the lead.

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You know, it stinks that we had to go to Kellen in the second game of the series.

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Yeah.

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And then had to go back to him again.

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I mean, kid, that kid just pitches his guts out every time.

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He's, it just,

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it does make you wonder if, because he had to keep throwing more pitches 'cause of

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the air, did that lead to being a little less effective in the game on Sunday and

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then you can't quite hold the lead through the ninth, you know, it's, or through

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the eighth I think it was game the right.

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Yeah.

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So it's, uh, that's the kind of stuff where it's like, man, if, if this

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happened, you know, it's, it's that snowball effect that you think of, yeah.

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Where this, this mistake didn't just affect this game,

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it affected the other games.

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Which, you know, again, that's just, sometimes it's just baseball, but

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it's, it's still when you're in the midst of a season where things have not

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gone how you want, it's frustrating.

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Yeah, but we had some fresher arms because those guys were able to go in

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there and have effective longer outings.

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Mm-hmm.

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Um, you know, I don't know what the long-term plan is for game three of

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the weekend series, if it's gonna keep kind of being that opener with Sulp.

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Pia, like, I thought he threw really well.

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Uh, you know, he gave up the, the one solo shot to left.

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Uh, he had one other little dinkin dunk hit, but that, I mean, going

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through southern misses order to only give that up is, is pretty solid.

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Uh, the radar gun is back working on the scoreboard too.

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So we got to see Jackson Ocon.

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I think the highest I saw was 94, but I could have missed something

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that was bigger than that.

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But.

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That kid can throw, he's got a future ahead of him if, if

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he dials a couple things in.

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Yeah, I think, and I was there Friday when, uh, Kante came in the

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game and, and he, I think he hit 95 and that was one where I think

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the, the gun was kind of messing up.

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They had.

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That issue with the lineup, that kind of messed things up for a while.

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Mm-hmm.

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And I think it affected that later.

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Um, but it was one where it's like one pitch, a couple pitches before

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was 92, and then he threw one and everybody's like, Ooh, it's like that.

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So I think he, yeah, I think he, so it's nice.

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That's, it is nice.

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You know, I, I don't think you necessarily have to have a game with a gun.

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It's, it's cool, you know, most guys are just throwing like 92, 9 3, whatever.

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Anyway, it's not that, you know, you don't, we don't have like a Noah

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INE that's out there throwing 98.

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No, no.

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The ky can, can, uh, hump it up there when he really wants to.

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Um, yeah.

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Hunter Baes is, is, is hurt right now.

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He's, he's a guy that's throwing 98 point 99.

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Um.

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But it is cool.

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It, and yeah, seeing a couple freshmen, I mean, you see guys like Ante Conco,

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especially the Conco having all the success he's having, they're huge kids.

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They're built like horses.

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Yeah.

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They're built like pitchers, uh, throwing in the, the mid nineties as freshmen.

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It's like, man, this is, I mean, like Finney was kind of saying if you,

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you think about that 18 team that had all the young guys getting a lot of

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innings, that led to then a few years later, a really dominant 21 team.

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It's like, man, you could, you could see some stuff happening

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in a few years with these guys.

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Uh, really have a special team.

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It'll be a little different than coming off of last season where we lose all

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three starters and none of us can identify who could possibly fill in that role.

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Now you're, you're gonna have guys already there that, you know, like, all right,

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we don't know who's gonna land where, but one or two of 'em is gonna start.

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Then you have the portal, then you have other guys coming in.

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Yeah.

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So I think we're, we're building for better success in the future.

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We still

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mean, Finn's told us we got a,

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yeah,

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Finny just told us, got a left-handed shortstop coming in.

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Right?

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So that's, you know, me right there.

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It's somebody else coming in to can, you know, push for a spot, whether any, you

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know, and we all know Shortstops, even in.

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College, uh, I mean, as a juco it doesn't mean he is a shortstop here.

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It doesn't mean he is not a shortstop here.

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It just means, you know, he's a, what it means is he's

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probably a talented interview.

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We'll have to figure out who that guy is and, and find out about him a little

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more and follow through the year here.

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But, but yeah, I mean, yeah.

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I think a couple years ago we brought in like five shortstops and like two

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of 'em ended up, like, one of 'em ended up playing shortstop and they

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were all over the field because that's just what, everybody's a shortstop.

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You look at the big leagues, everybody's a shortstop at one point.

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Well, we just talked to a former catcher who's now an outfielder.

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Yeah.

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Slash second baseman, dh.

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I mean, we plug and play.

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Kids wanna play, so they're gonna go in where they can go.

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In

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Tyler of Zedalis high school shortstop ends up at third base, then back in

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the outfield, then back at third base.

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And, and like I said, he had that one play.

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He was way deep in the hole, pretty much at shortstop,

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but almost made a great play.

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I mean, it's just,

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he moved so quickly to it.

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I thought it was will for a second, and then I saw, yeah, because

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I was like, I was by you.

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Yeah.

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And it was, I mean, it just a quarter of a step late.

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I mean, but to even just get to the ball was, was unbelievable.

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Yeah.

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And

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remember it was, it was one those were like, it had an amazing

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play for whoever had made it.

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It

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was Oh yeah.

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It wasn't his fault at all.

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No.

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I mean he, it was, it was phenomenal.

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But I remember it wasn't that many episodes, this podcast to go, if

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Fenny was on here talking about, we're just giving outfield balls to

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Za Zedalis, we're letting ZA Zedalis get comfy in the outfield and then

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boom, look, he's back starting a third.

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And,

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and that was one that, you know, I think we had never brought it

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up on the podcast because we just wanted to trust finna on that.

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But I think we had privately been like, man, you know, if he gets Zales

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a third base, you can really turn some things around this lineup and

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put some guys in some other spots and.

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Oh, lo and behold, it's, I, I'm, you know, uh, I glad he,

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you know, you like seeing it.

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'cause I, I think it, but almost you wonder, is that just what Tyler needed?

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You know, did he, because he kind of needed to reset himself as a,

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as a player and go to the outfield.

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Just worry about that.

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Just worry about hitting, get himself on track.

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And maybe now that he's more confident in that than the hitting.

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He's a great fielder.

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He really is a good fielder.

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Mm-hmm.

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So it's not one of those things where he is never, he is never

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really been bad at third base.

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He, he just, you know, I think of a hitting, it was just too

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many things to worry about.

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And so maybe if you take that away, focus on something else.

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Yeah.

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There's, there's also something about.

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You feel more comfortable at the plate because you're seeing pitches closer

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when you're playing an infield position.

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Yeah.

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Something about that with timing.

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Um, I could be completely wrong.

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I don't think I've played infield since I was like in diapers, so

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they stuck me in the outfield and I just kind of stayed out there.

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Yeah.

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Um, but it is funny how just things change and what you gotta do and

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also guys get hot and cool off and sometimes they cool off for too long.

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Yeah, that's, that's kinda why Tyler is, is there, but there's still opportunities.

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You, you saw a ton of guys get into the game season, especially

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over those last two season.

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And you know, like Bennett Siegel can come in and do something.

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Cole Mechanic can come and do something.

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I mean, Grayson Spar has been great to come in there and play quite a bit.

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This, this weekend

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he's played really good outfield.

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That, that's one of the things I think it's, it's so hard to notice and

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appreciate, especially if you're, I think from the angle that people have to

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sit in the outfield and then sometimes the angles you have to see on, on tv.

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But Grayson has been really good in right field.

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He's made some plays that are extremely hard, some like looking right in

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the sun where he is been able to block his eyes in the right way.

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Somebody's just, he's set himself up.

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Well, I, I, I make sure to try to tell him every single time if either come

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in with the dugout, if I'm there, it's like, Hey man, that was, that was great.

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Like he's, it, it, it's, it's hard to appreciate just

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catching the ball sometimes.

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'cause sometimes it's all he is doing is just catching.

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But it's like that wasn't easy.

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Like, so it's, you gotta appreciate that sometimes just catching the

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ball is, is, is playing great.

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Uh, especially with the way the wind was cranking over the weekend at the bud.

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I mean, there were some fly balls that I thought were, you know, medium depth

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center feel that Nick is almost touching the wall, going back and catching.

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Yeah.

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Uh, it was wild.

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And I'll fully admit, I think it was before the, the third game of the series

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said to you, I said, I don't know if I like Nick and Center and TJ and left.

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I feel like they're better the other way.

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Then Nick goes out and makes like two highlight real plays.

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Yeah.

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In center field.

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I'm like, well that's why I'm not coaching this team.

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Yeah, no, I thi but I think the reason is I think we've seen is TJ is better

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in center than he is in left or right.

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And that's kind of what our, you thought was, but at certain point

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it's like, well, you know what?

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I think Nick might be,

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can

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cover, Nick might be better in center than TJ is not as good in the left or whatever,

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you know, whatever the math on that equation is that they're, but the reality

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is when you, you throw it out there, if you have those two and then Scotty

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or Grayson Spar out there and Right.

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That's a pretty great outfield.

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That's a lot of ground that's getting cover a lot of balls or not gonna drop.

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Uh, and we saw that.

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And we'll, we'll need that defense to just stay strong.

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I, I mean, overall, the defense improved this weekend.

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Yes.

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Uh, we, we made a lot fewer mistakes.

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You know, we did make a couple there at the end of that second game, but, right.

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Obviously.

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Yeah.

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Um, I, I think it, we didn't dig ourselves in a giant hole

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because of a couple errors.

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We were able to stamp out ings.

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It could have gotten a lot worse.

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And I think.

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Over the last couple weeks had gotten a lot worse where that four

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spot becomes an eight or a seven and you're just toast after that.

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But we, we didn't and we kept fighting and two out hitting.

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I mean, think we get two six run innings against the top 10 team by this weekend.

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I didn't think it would happen.

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I'll take it though.

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No, and I, and I think you probably made the best point of the whole

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podcast here, is that you gotta take this momentum and carry it.

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Mm-hmm.

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If go and this week is, uh, you lay an egg, then it didn't matter.

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But if you go and this week and you really go out and keep competing and

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keep building on what you had this weekend, then this was something.

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So I, you know, again, like I said, we are, we're doing this every week.

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'cause we, we really like 'em, we really believe in 'em.

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So I really believe we're gonna go out and, and see these guys continue to

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compete just like they did this weekend.

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I'm right there with you.

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That's what I wanna see.

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Uh, I wanna, I wanna be able to go back and start booking hotel rooms and all

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the fun stuff for Montgomery and not, uh

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Right.

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Not worrying about if I should, uh,

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yeah.

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So.

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Well, we'll see.

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Uh, going to William and Mary Tuesday.

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If you're listening to this, the day of it is tonight.

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Uh, I gotta double check the TV broadcast, I'd imagine ESPN plus weekend.

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Definitely ESPN

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Plus.

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I don't think it has.

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I think on the schedule it just says, um, on the radio.

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So I don't know if, I know sometimes William and Mary is on like flow

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sports, but this just has radio, so maybe, maybe when they put it

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out tomorrow, we'll we'll find.

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Or today, I guess you're listening to it on Tuesday.

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Uh, so who knows?

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Either way we'll have a home radio broadcast.

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I highly recommend even if you can get the video to listen to

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that broadcast while watching.

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It would be much

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Ted or Andy, whoever it is.

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Doing a great job.

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Yeah, Ted was looking good in his floral, uh, Hawaiian shirt there

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for the final game and the hat

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they did.

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Um, that's it.

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It is incredibly difficult to call a baseball game by yourself.

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Uh, and Ted and Andy have done that all season.

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Yeah.

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So if you get the chance to listen to 'em, whether it's the ESPN plus

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broadcast or radio, please do so.

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'cause Yeah.

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You can only talk about so much stuff for 27 inning of baseball in three days.

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Yeah.

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Well, especially if the games gets sideways, that's when it gets really hard.

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Yeah.

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When a game is intense and back and forth and great.

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But when the games get sideways and, and we've had a few of 'em,

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uh, that's where it gets really tough to, to lock in and keep going.

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Yeah.

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But shout out to those guys for letting us have at least another,

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you know, way to take in the game.

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We greatly appreciate it.

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Yeah,

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absolutely.

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Alrighty, well I think that's gonna do it for us today.

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We appreciate you all tuning in.

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Uh, got to run into a bunch of people, a couple Southern

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Miss fans over the weekend too.

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Um, hope you all had a great time.

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I know we got a couple good messages.

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Uh, Delta dime.

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Sorry I missed you.

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Um, good sports betting buddy, but um, I think they'll do it for us.

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Go Monarchs.

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Go

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Monarchs.

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