S1E4 - Scarlett Rally
We recap a tough 1-3 week for ODU Baseball against UVA and Rutgers. Then look ahead to a midweek matchup with ECU and weekend series against Charlotte.
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Transcript
Yeah.
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:Gary: Hello Monarch fans and welcome
to the Hudson Homers podcast.
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:We are coming to you after the Rutgers
series in a game at UVA and looking
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:forward to a midweek against number
11 East Carolina and then a weekend
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:series at the Bud against Charlotte.
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:Coming off a one in three week.
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:able to salvage the game
yesterday against Rutgers.
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:But CB, how are you feeling today?
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:CB: I mean, I feel great.
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:Uh, a lot better than I think
I would have felt if we didn't,
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:win that game yesterday.
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:Um, tough week, you know, when you
go lose to number 14 UVA, it's like,
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:all right, you know, number 14,
that's, you lose to him, that's fine.
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:Um, losing the series to Rutgers, that,
that didn't feel great, especially
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:the way they kind of lost, um, And
halfway through, uh, the game Sunday,
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:it was really not looking great for,
uh, getting out of there with anything.
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:So it was a, it was a tough week.
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:Gary: You and I were standing behind
the plate in the top of the first
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:there and Rutgers was really squaring
the baseball up and kind of looked
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:at each other like, here we go again.
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:This is going to be the saddest podcast
of the year and in episode four.
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:But I got to say, I was Proud of the
guys because it would have been really
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:easy just to pack it in when you get down
five nothing again You know, that was
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:a theme of the weekend ruckers getting
those early leads and ambushing us at
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:the plate But they weren't having any of
it the boys rallied came back for a nine
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:to five win and You just have a totally
different feel on how your week went
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:after pulling out that sunday victory
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:CB: Yeah.
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:And, you know, and they started turning
things around in that Saturday game
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:with the, uh, the six run fifth inning.
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:I think that was, it's, it's a real shame
that they weren't able to, to get anything
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:else across the rest of that game.
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:Cause that really could
have pushed some momentum.
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:The bright side is they were
able to do it two days in a row.
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:It's not good to get down six,
nothing and five, nothing.
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:Uh, but that they were able to on Sunday's
game, mount the big comeback and they'll
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:do it all in one inning and get from
that, that, that takes a lot of heart.
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:I mean, cause at that point, you know,
after you've done it the day before you
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:got down and had to scratch and claw.
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:And then gave up a solo home
run and lost the game that way,
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:uh, to then have to do it again.
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:You know, I mean, it's, it's very
easy to just pack it in and be like,
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:all right, it's not our week boys.
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:Um, so for them to fight and not
stop and score a bunch of that thing
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:and then keep scoring the rest of
the game Yeah, that showed a lot.
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:That's that's what you want to see that.
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:That's kind of how you Start building
towards something worth having
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:Gary: and there's a hundred different
points In a three game series over
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:the weekend that you could look
at as, Oh, if we, if we did this,
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:we could have won the series.
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:If we could have done that, you really
feel that on Saturday, one more hit
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:with runners on base, or, you know,
Tyser stepping up to the plate with
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:the, the tying run on third, if he
cranks one on top of the parking garage.
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:We are sitting there winning two
out of three and feeling really
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:good about how the weekend went.
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:So baseball is funny like that, where
those just little things can can get you.
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:But I didn't make it down for the
game on Friday with the delays
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:and everything else going on.
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:The weather looked miserable.
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:And I feel like there's a distinct
advantage when the weather is miserable.
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:If you're able to get a couple run lead,
I feel like a lot of times you're able
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:to hold onto that lead just because
it's cold, it's windy, it's rainy,
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:and a little tougher to get fired
back up to, to get back into the game.
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:CB: Yeah, I actually wasn't at that
game either, which is rare for me.
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:I'm, I'm, I rarely miss a
game, uh, if I can avoid it.
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:Um, but I, I was just convinced
they weren't going to play.
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:The weather was that bad and having
talked to some folks that they
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:were there that it's impossible.
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:Maybe they shouldn't have played.
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:Um, but they did and you said,
I mean, it's, that's not fun
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:conditions to play and to hit in.
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:Um, it's just hard.
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:I heard that some of our pitchers
were saying they had trouble really
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:getting a good grip on the ball.
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:Um, so it's just, it's a tough night.
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:Up to that, up to the point about
the fifth inning on Saturday, there
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:really weren't hitting this week.
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:Just not a lot of, putting the
ball in play, which you got to do.
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:I mean, that's one thing
we saw Rutgers did.
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:We saw last week with, George Washington,
they were willing to put the ball in play.
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:And we've got to do a lot more of that.
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:You know, we've got guys who do it.
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:We got to do a lot more of just, putting
some strong contact on the ball and not
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:having to have to be over the fence.
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:Otherwise not gonna have happy results.
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:So we got the talent.
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:We got the team we saw yesterday we saw
in the fifth inning on saturday, you know,
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:we saw What they can be and it's exciting.
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:It's a fun brand of baseball.
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:Gary: It is, and speaking of strong
contact, we do have to give you
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:the Dollars for Dingers update.
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:Uh, the Monarchs now stand at four
after this weekend, with Kyle Edwards
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:getting one out of the ballpark, and then
Luke Waters getting one out on Sunday.
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:So we are at four now, so make sure
you're saving your Dollars for Dingers.
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:We will, continue working on a catchy
theme for CB's challenge here for steals.
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:CB: the bucks for bags bucks for bags
and hate Bucks for bags is up to 19
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:now guys, 19 through seven games.
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:The boys are, are taking them.
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:Um, Stephen Meyer can't be stopped.
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:Uh, he's, he's six for six, Kyle
Edwards, four for four and steals.
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:I mean, these guys are,
they're getting out there.
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:They want, they want that donation.
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:They say, look, we're not going
to be the same kind of power team.
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:We're going to bring some excitement, man.
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:I mean Stephen Meyer yesterday
had a perfect day at the plate.
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:Um, he first had bat hit a single.
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:And then he got hit by a
pitch three different times.
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:I personally didn't think
anyone looked that bad.
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:I was also standing over there.
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:Not the one getting hit but I will say
steve It looks like the kind of guy who
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:does not enjoy being hit by a baseball
He did not seem pleased about it and he
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:wanted to three times Um, and then they
worked a walk in his last at bat So five
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:plate appearances only, uh, one actual at
bat but perfect day and had three steals.
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:I mean the kids Trying to make
the bucks for bags happen.
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:So, dollar for dinners were up to
four and bucks for bags up to 19.
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:So, you know, start, start
saving up your money.
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:Be willing to help out this program.
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:We got, we got two avenues here.
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:Gary: I will definitely commit
to that a dollar for every steal
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:and we don't just have 19 steals.
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:We are 19 for 19 Uh
stealing bags this year.
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:So when they go they're
getting there safely.
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:We talked about steven meyer
yesterday just weird baseball oddity
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:Two different innings yesterday.
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:He was hit by a pitch then stole second
Then scored on a hit from Luke Waters.
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:So there was the home run or a
single that, that just screams
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:weird to me for baseball.
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:Like I'm sure it's happened
before, but it's a weird one.
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:CB: I liked about it
too, it is, it is odd.
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:I mean, it's stuff like that.
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:It's any time the exact same thing
happens, it'd be even more odd
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:if Luke could hit a home run both
times in a single both times.
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:I was kind of hoping coming in after
the game, Saturday coming to Sunday,
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:I was hoping that Finney would switch
up the lineup some, and he did that.
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:He moved a few guys around,
gave a couple of guys days off.
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:And I like that he had Meyer up
there toward the top of the order.
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:Um, it, it would not hurt my feelings
to actually see him batting first and
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:seeing, um, Kyle hitting, hitting second.
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:But I do like the, you know,
Kyle hits first and then.
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:Steven can either, um, bunt him
over or he can single him, you
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:know, do whatever he needs to do.
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:Um, but I like seeing him
at the top of the order.
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:And he's a guy who right now, he's
right now he's leaving the team
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:in average, uh, leading on base
by a lot and getting those steals.
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:So having him more for the top
of the order where he can cause
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:some chaos is a good move.
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:And I hope that continues.
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:Gary: And over the weekend,
he was three for six.
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:He got either six walks or was
hit by a pitch, three steals.
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:Three RBIs.
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:Uh, so you go, you over the
weekend hitting 500 with an out
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:of this world on base percentage.
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:I think that's someone you're going to
have to keep at the top of the lineup.
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:If he continues his pace, you have to
keep him up at the top of the lineup
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:because he was a duck on the pond for
Luke Waters, who also had a fantastic, uh,
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:four RBI game yesterday, along with the
home run, really the, the lineup shakeup.
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:on, on Sunday, getting Meier
to the top of the order, uh,
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:getting some other guys in there.
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:And then Luke Waters being able to drive
them home was huge and really propelled
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:every time that top of the order came
back through, we were getting guys on
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:base once we hit that fourth inning.
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:CB: Yeah, that, uh,
going, uh, was Boucher?
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:That's a pretty solid four in a row.
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:Um, and, and they really
did produce yesterday.
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:Gary: Yeah, absolutely.
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:Luke ended up going two for three, drove
in four runs, also drew two walks, Boucher
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:with one for four, drove in two runs.
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:He had a walk, uh, just felt like we had.
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:Really strong plate appearances in
the top half of that lineup yesterday.
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:Uh, and we executed a perfect hit and
run, uh, in that fourth inning as well
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:with Nick Miller, send the runner to
second short stops out of position.
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:He pokes one through the left side into
the outfield to keep that rally going.
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:So just a, a lot of really good small ball
type things were showing up on Sunday.
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:CB: And that at bat from, from Nick
Miller was such a, that was so great to
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:see because he's a guy, you know, I've
only seen him since he's been here in
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:the fall, um, as a juco kid from Texas,
and he's one of those guys, he looks
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:every time like he wants to take a swing
to hit the ball out of the ballpark.
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:Um, and he kind of has this, this swing
that's, it's a very all or nothing.
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:Um, and so seeing him.
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:Shortened up and just he the swing
actually looked kind of awkward But it
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:was really just because he was pulling his
hands in And he had trying to get a good
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:spot on the barrel and he that I mean that
was just an excellent piece of hitting and
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:so that was a guy who Went kind of against
what his I think approach is at the
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:plate To do what the team needed to do in
that moment and that's fantastic to see.
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:I mean, that's a really big deal
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:Gary: I think it'll be adjustment
for some of the guys who probably
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:coming up all through high school
and travel ball were told elevate,
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:elevate, elevate, get the ball up
and now exit velocity, all of that.
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:And that's still important
for what we're trying to do.
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:But I think we're a little more, how
about a little more level swing, focus on
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:contact, don't swing out of your shoes.
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:So it's good to see guys that
are able to make that adjustment.
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:I think some are making it a little
bit quicker than others as well.
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:CB: yeah, I mean it's such a you know,
the modern baseball hitting philosophy it
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:gets So misconstrued it gets misconstrued
by fans and then pundits and so I know
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:it gets misconstrued by People who are
trying to teach it, the idea of Launch
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:angle x velocity all that is the idea
is to create a swing that creates the
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:highest Exit velocity with the most
optimal launch angle, you know launch
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:angles I mean, so you always hear like
all these guys these hall of fame type
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:hitters, you know, um, Miguel Cabrera
is one that comes to the top of my mind.
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:He's like, yeah, I don't care
about exit velocity Miguel you
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:do you absolutely care about it?
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:You you you produce I know for a fact
you can't have the amazing hall of
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:fame career that guy had without caring
about it He was every single day working
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:his crap to make sure he was Having
his swing in the exact perfect way
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:to create this exact perfect result.
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:Now he might not have said, I'm trying
to create a 23 degree launch angle or
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:26, whatever that perfect angle is.
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:Uh, but he was doing the right things.
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:And so at that you're right, it becomes.
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:When it gets watered down and
misconstrued, it becomes, well, elevate.
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:Well, it's not elevate.
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:It's, it's creative swing that creates
that natural, again, 23 degrees.
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:It's not a huge level of elevation.
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:It's not a big Scott rocket up in the air.
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:It's a very natural, I mean, I think a
chipper Jones, I think of that perfect,
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:just level, even swing, hit the ball
extremely hard at that perfect angle.
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:And yeah, so it is frustrating.
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:And you see it a lot with, you know,
the more amateur baseball, you go down
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:,I got to see like a 12, you travel
ball team and these kids are trying
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:to, trying to elevate and celebrate.
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:It's like, bro, you're, you're way above
10, like hit a line drive swing and the
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:ball will, you know, the ball again.
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:I mean, you see, I'll say
Freddie Freeman was a guy.
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:I remember I saw Freddie Freeman.
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:He was 18 years old.
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:He was a, he was a six
foot five skinny as a post.
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:Um, and, but all he was trying
to do was hit line drives.
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:And because he, if somebody got to him and
got smart and said, look, you're as big as
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:you are, the older you get, the bigger you
get, the more home runs are going to fall.
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:And now the guy hits 30, 40 home runs
regularly, no problem because he's
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:always just focused on the swing.
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:So if you focus on the line
drive, the rest happens.
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:I think the guys that try to hit
home runs, you're going to fail.
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:Gary: And the home runs we saw
over the weekend were exactly
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:what you're talking about.
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:They are line drives that there are no
doubters because they're hit so hard, but
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:they are not those ones that are up there
into the lights or anything like that.
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:They're, you know what, if it's a little
bit lower of a launch angle, it's going
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:to pound off the wall and be a double.
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:Uh, but, but, you know, both Kyle and Luke
were able to get them up and out of the
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:ballpark and, and really, really sparked
some things for us on Saturday and Sunday.
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:But just to finish the conversation
out about the game on Sunday, I know
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:we've talked a lot about hitting, uh,
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:CB: Oh, my goodness.
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:I mean,
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:Gary: Really, strong pitching performers
as Trent Buchanan started out a little
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:bit shaky, after the game, coach Finwood
was saying, didn't know if he was just
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:tight or if it was the cold or what it
was, but he really settled in after having
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:a rough first couple outs there, getting
that done, but he was able to lock it in.
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:Uh, he was actually gonna bring
Trent back out for additional
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:innings is he only threw 66 pitches.
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:But we had that long fourth inning.
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:We had a longer fifth inning.
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:Uh, and coach Finwood just didn't want
to take the chance of putting it back
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:out there and letting him get hot.
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:But who comes to the rescue?
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:But you have Previous guest of the
Hudson homers podcast, Jacob Gomez,
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:and I'll let you talk all about Jacob.
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:I know you're excited about him too.
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:CB: I'm excited about both of them.
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:I love, um, that, Trent,
yeah, first inning was rough.
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:Um, it was a four run to the
first and not really, they didn't
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:really hit the ball that hard.
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:They were just kind of bleeding
and it was kind of what was
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:happening a lot of the week.
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:Just a little, little.
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:You know death by a thousand cuts.
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:Um, so it was great to see him Fight
back and fight through and then and
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:again, I I commended the staff last
week about this I commended this week.
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:They're letting guys fight through
stuff and I I think it's how you develop
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:pitchers It's how you develop guys who
can win for you at the end of the year
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:Is by letting them fight through stuff
when it's early on Um, and so and then
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:yeah, but jacob just came out and I mean
the kid is he's dynamite, man He is on
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:You're hard pressed to find somebody
better and on and just talking trash
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:the whole time as he's getting guys out.
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:He is, um Electric to watch is again.
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:It's very hard as a pitcher to be
someone who is not just your stuff is
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:actually entertaining But to just be
like a presence who is it was imposing
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:and entertaining on the mound and Gomez
He's worth the price of admission, uh
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:for scoreless innings for strikeouts,
uh, just one walk what three hits So he
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:scattered a few hits here and there and
again, they kept him out there I mean i'll
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:tell you i'm over there in the bullpen.
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:Nobody's warming up in the bullpen.
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:That was his game great to
see just phenomenal pitching
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:on, uh, the Sunday game.
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:Gary: And two of those four strikeouts
were in the ninth inning and he was
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:absolutely letting the batters hear
about it when he struck them out,
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:pumping up the dugout, pumping up the
guys on the field as a team on Sunday.
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:We only threw 126 pitches
just for some reference.
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:Rutgers threw 163.
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:So it two pitchers combining for only 126
pitches, uh, to get you through a Sunday.
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:That's pretty rare.
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:Cause that's usually when you're rolling
through some arms there in the bullpen.
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:Uh, so glad to see that bounce back.
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:Uh, I know cause it was a rough
early going for our pitchers
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:on Friday and on Saturday.
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:CB: No, it was, I mean, Sunday, obviously
when you only win one game in a week, it's
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:easy to have that be the most fun and most
memorable best game, but there was a lot
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:to love about the Sunday game as far as
just the heart and fight the guy showed.
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:And then like I said, they were, they
showed us signs of it on Saturday.
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:So it's great to see that they were
able to, even when they got down, push
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:through because it's so easy to just
be like, all right, well, you know
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:what, full of invoice, that's fine.
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:And then not doing that, that was huge.
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:Gary: Yeah, we've heard from players
and coaches about how the chemistry of
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:this team reminds them a lot of that 21
team, and that's all well and good, but
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:what does that chemistry do when you
face adversity when you go to UVA and
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:you get shut out and you have a clunker
of a game on a Friday to start the
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:series and you come up just short and
I'll come back Saturday like, You see
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:that, that chemistry and that leadership
within the team show up a little bit on
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:Sunday when things are still not going
well and coming back to get that win.
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:So I hope that's a good teachable
moment for both the coaching staff,
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:but also the leadership within the
team there to say, look, if we keep
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:doing what we're doing, keep working
towards this, we can win ball games.
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:Uh, and you know, don't let those
moments drag you down too much
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:to where, we're not able to come
back, but love that resiliency.
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:Rejoiner: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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:Gary: We talked about the good game.
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:We talked a lot about Sunday.
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:We do need to talk about
the other games as well.
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:Just to make things
pretty, pretty fair here.
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:Uh, got
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:CB: I mean, are we obligated, you
know, it's, uh, all right, we'll
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:talk, I mean, we'll talk about it
because there are lessons to learn.
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:Gary: Yeah, and we got to talk
about, you know, the game in
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:Charlottesville, uh, during the week,
you know, I, that game was, did not
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:feel like an eight nothing game.
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:They kind of stretched it out later on.
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:Uh, I think the, the interesting thing
there is we got 10 guys on base in
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:that game and we left them all on base.
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:So we had.
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:opportunities with guys on base.
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:We just needed that, that extra hit.
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:We needed one more play here or there.
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:We needed to bounce to go our way to
kind of get back in that game early
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:because, you know, it's, it's still a
two nothing ball game there in the fifth
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:and we were neck and neck with them.
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:CB: Yeah, we, we
definitely were with them.
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:It, that was one, you're right.
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:It didn't feel like, like if you told
me the final score of that game is eight
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:to nothing, I was kind of surprised.
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:It just kind of bled away a
little bit there at the end,
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:but we, We hung with them.
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:Um, again, just not getting
enough hits and timely spots.
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:Um, and again, I think
Finney's mentioned this.
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:It just comes down to approach.
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:It comes down to, you know, how
you're attacking the at bats.
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:Um, a few of our guys are kind of
very caught in between right now.
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:It seems like they're kind of, it's
like they want to work the count,
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:but then when it's time to be
aggressive, they're kind of stuck.
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:And so there's a little bit of, um,
I think right now would definitely
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:be one to tell you, like he he's.
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:He's kind of in between.
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:It seems like he's not
seeing the ball great now.
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:I looked like on the, he got, uh, I don't
think I wanted that or two of bats on
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:Sunday, but his last at bat that he had
on Sunday, he was seeing the ball a lot
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:better, had a really nice swing on it.
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:Um, so hopefully he's getting out of it.
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:Um, but yeah, definitely.
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:Um, yeah, definitely an approach situation
where it just weren't making it happen.
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:Gary: Virginia brought
back a lot of their lineup.
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:I think the question mark on them,
at least in the preseason was what's
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:their pitching going to look like.
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:But this is a team that is I would guess
would likely lead to ACC in scoring.
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:They've got some dudes
that can hit the ball.
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:They square it up.
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:They make you pay on mistakes,
which is something else we saw
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:from Rutgers over the weekend.
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:But, they're going to be
a legit good ball club.
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:But I'm glad that we're
getting two more shots at them.
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:Uh, one more in Charlottesville
that one at Harbor park, unless, you
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:know, that gets canceled for a lot of
another third or fourth year in a row.
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:Hopefully that, that holds up, but.
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:I like our chances a little bit
more catching them later here in the
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:season, getting two more shots at
them, uh, and seeing what we can do.
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:I'd love to get one, if not two of
those games, For potential postseason
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:purposes, but also just the confidence
building of beating a team that's
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:ranked and that, that got you pretty good
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:early in the season.
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:CB: There's no reason we can't beat them.
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:It's just you gotta perform.
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:Um, and hopefully, you know, we got
some games coming up here this week.
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:They'll get us ready for them next time.
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:Yeah, I, I, you talk about their lineup.
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:I love, um, Harrison did a
wick of their, um, outfielder.
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:Uh, he went to Western
branch here in Chesapeake.
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:Um, just, I've been watching
him play since he was about
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:a freshman in high school.
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:And he's just a fantastic
kid, fantastic ball player.
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:I kept trying to push him on ODU
every time I saw him and I even, you
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:know, knowing that he probably wasn't
going to pick us compared to, uh, you
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:know, people, they see the big power
five school and they're not going to
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:pick ODU, unfortunately, which, uh,
but, clearly he shows you belong.
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:So it's good to see.
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:And then, The starter in that game for
him was Cullen McKay from, uh, from Maury.
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:And he, you know, great job kid had
a Tommy John surgery in high schools.
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:It was great to see him performing well.
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:So yeah, we got, you know, I
don't like UVA in general, but I
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:could root for some of their kids.
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:Gary: Yeah, pick, pick the ones you like.
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:I mean, did awake was great.
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:He started the scoring.
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:He hit that solo home run, ended
up having two hits on the day.
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:Uh, but really just top to
bottom with that lineup.
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:They're in good shape, uh, in terms of the
bats that they're bringing to the dish and
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:just being able to turn that lineup over.
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:And if, if Colin McKay is, is
going to be their quote unquote,
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:number four guy, they're.
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:Likely going to be in
good shape there as well.
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:But we will move on from
that, that eight nothing game.
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:And we'll, uh, we'll talk
about UVA more later in the
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:season.
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:CB: Let's talk about.
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:Steven Trone, though.
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:I mean, this is a guy, he's a sophomore,
side armor, didn't get a lot of shots
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:last year, but so far he's come in a
couple games when things were, you know,
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:we're, right now they kind of got him
coming in games when they're out of hand,
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:but Steven's been, you know, just throwing
great in both, so I want to, he's a guy
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:that doesn't get a lot of attention, so
I want to make sure to give him a nod
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:and say, hey, because if you look at the
line of that game, he's about the only
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:guy that really came out of it unscathed.
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:Um, other guys, you know, came in,
got it out here or there, but he had a
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:whole inning to end it and did great.
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:So I want to give
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:Gary: Yeah.
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:And he also threw really well on Friday
coming in as the first arm out of the
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:pen pitching, ending in the third, uh,
no runs, two hits had three strikeouts.
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:So he struck out half the
batters that he faced.
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:So he.
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:Came in in a situation where we kind of
need to stop the bleeding a little bit.
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:And I think he did a great job there
and then getting three strikeouts.
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:Uh, another arm that I didn't
want to talk about, you know,
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:Lincoln ransom, uh, coming in on
Friday, uh, he, he pitched as well.
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:Did end up giving up a couple of runs,
uh, but he had three strikeouts in
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:his first appearance as a pitcher for
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:ODU.
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:CB: And Kyle Finn had a great couple of
innings at the end of the game Friday too.
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:Even in some, some not great
outcomes, there were some great
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:Gary: Yeah, and hopefully that's,
experience that they're going to take
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:forward with them into the next few
weekends, but it was good to get some run
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:from some of these other arms, I guess
that's the one upside to, starters,
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:maybe not staying in the game as long,
but, Friday was, was really a tough
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:one right from the jump Rutgers goes
up to nothing in the first, by the
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:end of the second, it's five, nothing.
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:Uh, and really we, weren't in that game.
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:Kyle obviously hit the, this, The solo
shot, uh, I'm sorry to run shot there
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:on Friday, uh, to get us on the board,
but, uh, tough, tough sledding on
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:Friday.
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:CB: Like I said, I was convinced
they weren't going to play.
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:I went home and actually just
laid down and, uh, I fell asleep.
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:And by the time I got
up, the game was over.
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:Uh, so I, I was, uh, sad that I
missed it, but also not sad based
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:on the
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:Gary: Yeah, I watched the
game on the stream, uh, forced
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:the wife to watch it as well.
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:But it felt like Rutgers, they
really came out there on that
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:Friday, looking to ambush us.
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:If there was anything remotely
over the plate, they were putting
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:it in play a lot of infield
singles, getting some blue pits.
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:Uh, they were taking advantage of, Yeah,
any, any ball that was down in the dirt
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:trying to take an extra base, uh, Then
we did have three errors in that game
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:as well That led to some runs of the 10
runs that were scored only seven were
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:earned Uh, so just this didn't feel like
we could get an out there for a little
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:while for one reason or another uh, so
it just uh Just a game I think you kind
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:of have to flush a little bit that that
didn't go your way and you got beat by
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:a good Team that brought out a great
starter and coppola, uh who pitched well
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:had nine strikeouts and six innings.
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:I mean, that's It's going to be tough
to beat a Friday starter like that
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:when they're throwing that well, and
you just don't have anything going
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:CB: yeah, I mean, you were mentioning
the other day that, uh, Rutgers, the team
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:is like you said, if there's a way you
can bet on them for the future, they're,
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:they're, uh, they're good looking team.
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:They got some, some good pitchers
and they got some really good hitters
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:and that they're, they came in
and showed themselves to be a very
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:solid
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:Gary: We don't have a sports
betting podcast yet in the
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:Monarchist Podcast Network.
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:If one of those companies wants
to pay us, we're happy to do it.
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:But, futures on Big Ten, uh, champion
for Rutgers, probably be smart.
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:Maybe take a little, uh, look at
the odds for World Series, because I
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:think that they're going to surprise
a lot of teams in the Big Ten.
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:CB: Yeah, I couldn't begin to tell
you who's in the big 10, but it was
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:at the Ohio state and Penn state.
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:Some of the, some of the schools
don't even have a baseball
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:team, but I
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:Gary: Yeah, Indiana and Iowa, I
think, are their two ranked teams in
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:the Big Ten right now, and they're
the odds on favorites to win it.
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:Rutgers is a team that I feel
like what they do is going to
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:hold up well because they're doing
a lot of the stuff we want to.
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:Put the ball in play, they run well,
they don't have a lot of big velo
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:guys in their starting rotation.
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:But they locate well.
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:They have a lot of late break, a lot
of late movement on their pitching.
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:Uh, it felt like anytime we did make good
contact, we were just driving it right
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:into the dirt in front of home plate.
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:And it wasn't for a lack of a bad swing.
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:It was just that those
pitches were moving late.
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:They've got some good potential there.
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:We obviously talked to Bobby D.
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:Uh, I think we settled up his tab
a little bit and talked to him.
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:But, Joey played a, pretty
big role there on Saturday
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:CB: Yeah, I mean, the outcome isn't what
we as, as Monarch fans really want to
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:see, but, um, you know, as Joey D is a
kid again, kid I've known since he was
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:in high school, since he was committed to
ODU, um, and got to see him play for four
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:years here, and he's just a great kid,
his dad's a great guy, his uncle was there
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:taking pictures, his uncle's a great guy
too, just a whole good family, he came in
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:in the ninth inning when they needed him.
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:They were up by one run.
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:Um, he tried to give us a
chance to me for a minute.
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:There was looking like, you know,
I mean, Joey had four years here.
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:He really never got a chance to really
establish himself in a strong way as a
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:reliable guy, because he was, he was wild.
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:You know, he had this, he had
all this stuff in the world lefty
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:that can probably hit 97, I think
it really pumps it up there.
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:Um, but wasn't always wild.
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:And so he came and came out
there in the, in the ninth
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:inning and gave us opportunities.
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:We put some guys on base and,
but he was able to shut the door.
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:And I mean, he saw that video was going
around all the different, Twitters
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:and things were, were sharing it.
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:He was pumped, and he deserved it.
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:He came in and it was emotional
for him and he celebrated.
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:And I mean, I told him at the
end of the game yesterday, I
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:said, Hey man, that was awesome.
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:I said, I'm sad that we lost the
game, but it's just a baseball game.
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:Um, you know, at the end of the day,
that was a, that was a big important
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:moment for him and he showed up
big and you get to celebrate and
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:enjoy it.
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:Gary: and he has that established
role at Rutgers too, where
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:he's going to be the closer.
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:Those are the situations that he's
going to be coming into all season long.
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:And I think that has helped build
some confidence in him, but, there
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:was a lot of pressure on him.
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:The Odu dugout, that was the loudest
that they were all game is when he came
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:in to pitch one run game in the bottom
of the ninth, uh, doesn't get much more
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:pressure packed than that, especially
early in the season, playing the school
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:that you were at for a long time.
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:You know, a lot of those guys,
uh, and it came down to it.
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:I mean, he, he was going up against Tyser,
our best power hitter, and he was able
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:to strike him out and win that battle.
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:So obviously we're Odu fans first,
and we wanted Odu to win that game,
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:and I was hoping for, for Tyser to.
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:To put one into the chemistry building
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:CB: Oh, yeah.
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:Gary: you know, uh,
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:CB: I was on that little perch that
I like to stand for a walk off, you
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:know, for like a walk off celebration.
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:I was, I was in the spot.
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:So I was, I was definitely hoping for it.
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:I mean, I was like, I, I, I love Joey, but
I want nothing more than for Tyson to hit.
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:I, frankly, I wanted Tyson to hit
a single and just tie the game up.
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:Let's just keep playing it.
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:That's fine too.
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:But yeah, I was hoping he'd park one.
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:Um, yeah, you're right.
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:I mean, obviously we're ODU fans, Joey's a
great kid, love the guy, but I would have
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:loved nothing better in that moment than
for him to cough it up, but he didn't.
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:And that's competition.
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:You got to take your hat off to the kid.
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:He competed, he won and
say, okay, great, man.
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:I love you, buddy.
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:I'm not mad at
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:you cause you
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:Gary: yeah, credit where credit
is due to, to come through in a
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:pressure pack situation for sure.
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:I know that a lot of people there at
ODU and including us will be keeping
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:an eye on him and Rutgers throughout
the year, I think we actually got
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:an open invite to come up for a
Rutgers series, uh, at some point.
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:So, uh, you know, we'll, we'll see
how that plays out here through the
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:spring, but it was a good ending
to the game, even though it had.
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:It started raining there in the
eighth, the temperature had dropped
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:again, uh, but the fans that did stay
around were, were treated to a really
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:entertaining end to the ball game.
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:Uh, I went over to men's basketball
after that senior night, crazy win.
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:So it was just a day of soaking in a lot
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:of ODU athletics.
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:CB: Yeah.
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:Oh, and, and since we're, you
mentioned ODU basketball, congrats
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:to Jeff Jones on his career.
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:He was outstanding for us.
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:He was everything, I think, that
represents Old Dominion well.
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:Um, and he did a good job of, you
know, having his players and his
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:team to represent Old Dominion well.
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:And so, I mean, he's a guy
who's always, always been a
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:staple of the baseball games.
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:Um, and just always just
a wonderful human being.
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:And so it's a, you know,
again, congrats to him.
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:We appreciate everything he did for us.
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:Gary: Absolutely.
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:He's one of the toughest human
beings that exists on this planet.
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:He has been through a lot.
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:Uh, so wish him nothing but a
healthy and happy retirement.
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:Enjoy it.
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:I know that he will still remain
plugged into the ODU community.
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:So love to see ODU fans go out and support
him as he kind of continues down this
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:journey but, more on that from, uh, some
of the other shows on our network with
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:Mike and Aaron on the,, The basketball
show, uh, and a few other things.
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:And of course, we will keep you
updated with everything we know about
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:the coaching search and what's going
through there, but I'll just say who,
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:CB: Yeah, I'm sure that's all be like, all
right, I guarantee that be unlikely that
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:I know who and I saw somebody said drew
williamson I'm, like I would know who he
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:is.
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:That's about
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:it
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:Gary: well, if you've listened to
rap music from the, the:
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:understand the reference of who
and the name that comes after that.
608
:We'll see how everything plays
out, but I've seen a lot of tweets
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:mentioning a few names from some
teams that are around here that think
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:ODU fans will get excited about.
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:But, back to baseball,
drop the game Saturday.
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:Come back to when it's Sunday.
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:We we've talked about that.
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:Let's take a look ahead.
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:Uh, you know, we've got to shake off
the one in three week pretty quickly.
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:There's no room for worrying about
last week as you move forward
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:with this crazy schedule we have.
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:And it starts on Tuesday, number
11, East Carolina coming to the bud.
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:CB: I didn't realize there were 11.
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:I knew there were top 25 with 11.
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:Okay, and ecu is always a challenge.
622
:They're always tough, um, they Travel
well, so they have some there's always
623
:some fans They come in and want to act
like ecu fans, which is not always to me
624
:the most pleasant thing to have around
but their their teams always compete
625
:very well and they're fun to watch.
626
:They're fun baseball to watch too because
they're so Different because they have
627
:so many guys that will play the field and
pitch So that's always really interesting
628
:to watch, you know, gotta go from third
base to pitcher and then back to shortstop
629
:and the shortstop goes to center field
and they I would I used to keep a box
630
:score when I watch games and I I think I
would hate watching a ecu game doing that
631
:Gary: Yeah.
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:They've always been a tough team.
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:They've hosted many, many regionals.
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:So far this year, they are five
and two to start the season.
635
:Uh, swept writer to start the season
really just, I mean, absolutely destroyed
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:writer that entire series, uh, turned
around for their midweek after that.
637
:And that actually lost a game on the road
at Campbell university is a one run game.
638
:It was a good ball game, but they are.
639
:coming up to Norfolk after a three game
set with UNC, where they went two and
640
:one, they dropped the game on Friday,
came back to win Saturday, one on Sunday.
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:Obviously North Carolina also ranked
also another great baseball program.
642
:Maybe we catch them, sleeping
a little bit after that.
643
:Maybe they're a little tired after
the big emotional game against
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:their in state rival there, but
they were able to win that series.
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:CB: Or maybe we should
show up and play like.
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:we can play and beat them I mean,
this is one of those things like we
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:don't need to catch anybody sleeping.
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:We have an extremely deep
Extremely talented team and
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:they can just show up and play.
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:Well, that's always one of the things
to me that and i'm not Pick it on you
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:gary because I know that's that's a
very common kind of way to talk about
652
:things You know, we'll catch them sleep.
653
:It's like oh, we'll just how about
we'll just show up and play to
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:our best of our ability We'll beat
them because we're really good.
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:That's all that's
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:always gets
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:Gary: We've, beaten him
plenty of times in the past.
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:I'm not worried about that.
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:I'm thinking, how do we cruise to like 12
to 2, 13 to 4, something like that is, is
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:kind of,
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:CB: that'd be
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:fun.
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:Gary: Kind of what I'm thinking
there, but it looks like they're going
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:to start their, lefty Ethan Norby.
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:He hasn't thrown a lot this season.
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:He's only had two outings, two innings
pitch, given up two earned runs.
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:So I imagine that similar to what you're
going to see on the ODU side, it's
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:going to be primarily a staff day with
a lot of guys coming out of the bullpen.
669
:Obviously it's a big one and we'll
have a return trip down there
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:to Greenville later in the year.
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:But, unfortunately this game is not going
to be streaming on ESPN plus, and it is
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:because the women's basketball team is
home that day being streamed on ESPN plus.
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:Uh, and that is part of
the Sunbelt contract there.
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:We can't do two games at once just
yet, and they may run into each other.
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:Uh, but you'll be able to
follow on the live stats.
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:I'm sure there'll be some other
ways to follow along as well.
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:CB: well.
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:and the good news is, if you're in
the area, the weather is beautiful.
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:Um, now I personally, I'm about
to work to a certain point, I'm
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:gonna miss about half the game.
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:Um, but the weather, it
should be in the 60s.
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:Uh, it should be a real nice day, so
if you find yourself able to get over
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:to ODU to watch the game, uh, go.
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:And also, since, you know, you
mentioned that they went to
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:Campbell, they're coming here.
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:Let's give ECU credit for
being willing to go play teams.
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:Um, there's so many college programs.
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:ECU has been very good for a while.
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:I'm thinking about the last 10, 15 years,
they've been a very good team consistently
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:and they're willing to go places.
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:Plenty of teams, if they had
the equivalent to Campbell.
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:In their state, they're not
going to go play them right.
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:And you see you that they don't, they
don't have any problem with treating
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:people well and have had built
relationships with other teams, other
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:programs and going and traveling.
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:And I think that's fantastic.
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:They've, they've always been willing
to come here and do those, the
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:home and aways and play games here.
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:And that's good, good on them for, for
being what the sport's supposed to be
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:about.
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:Gary: Absolutely.
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:And I feel like that carries over
to pretty much all their teams.
703
:We have a pretty long series with
them and in football as well.
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:But the big news for this game, that
we broke on Sunday, afterwards in
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:the post game, conversation with
coach Finwood, Blake Morgan is going
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:to get the start for old dominion.
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:The lefty will be back on the mound,
likely only going two or three innings,
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:but I am really excited that he is at
the point where They feel comfortable
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:putting them on the mound, giving them a
couple of innings, and seeing what he's
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:got, let him return to form because we've
talked about it on all of our episodes.
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:What a weapon to add in this season,
especially as we get into conference play.
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:CB: That's I mean, it's fantastic.
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:And then in credit to Blake for working
his butt off and, and frankly, just being
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:lucky enough not to have any setbacks.
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:Um, because I mean, that's the
thing, no matter how hard you work,
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:you can't have any control over.
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:So, but it's, that's fantastic, man.
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:I'm excited.
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:I, again, I'll probably miss him getting,
getting to see him pitch this time, uh,
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:which is a shame, but at the same time, he
doesn't need me to be there to pitch well.
721
:Um, yeah.
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:But so, so hopefully it comes out and
again, just don't, I'm sure he'll be, you
723
:know, anxious trying to prove too much
at once, but hopefully he can just settle
724
:in, relax, just be himself and just throw
and hopefully have that, that confidence
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:in his leg and his landing point.
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:And uh, and just go out and
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:perform.
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:Gary: Yeah.
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:We're hoping it's the first
of many starts that we get
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:to see from Blake
731
:Morgan
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:So you'll, you may miss the first one,
but hopefully you're catching quite
733
:a few more, uh, the rest of the way.
734
:So big one on Tuesday against
East Carolina over at the bud.
735
:Looking forward to the weekend.
736
:We've got a three game set with Charlotte.
737
:They're coming to town.
738
:They have a midweek
with Wofford this week.
739
:Uh, but as of today, they are
They've had an interesting schedule.
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:Uh, their trip to Norfolk will
be their first away game of the
741
:season, but they dropped two out
of three to Virginia tech at home.
742
:Uh, they played Davidson
and beat Davidson 24 to one.
743
:Then they had a four game set
with West Virginia where they
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:played a doubleheader on Saturday.
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:They lost the first two games
that series, they won the last
746
:two, both of them by one run, but.
747
:Interesting to get names like that on
your schedule and not have had to play
748
:a game away from your home ballpark yet.
749
:CB: I guess tech won't come play us, but
they'll go play them That's all right.
750
:Whatever they want to
do Good good for them.
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:I i'll never understand the
way tech and uva uh Do their
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:programs, but that's me when
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:Gary: Yeah, we see a bleed over
to some other sports as well.
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:There's some, some,
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:CB: I said their programs I meant
like Athletics of the whole they
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:they just I mean again, but then
again that comes down to the whole
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:ethos and attitude of those schools.
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:They're very stuck up.
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:No, they're not the hard working man.
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:Like bill
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:dominion
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:Gary: yeah, that is absolutely right.
763
:Well, we're going to have a
pretty hardworking team coming
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:to the bud this weekend.
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:Charlotte, four and four, obviously
that's been a good rivalry for us
766
:back from the conference USA days.
767
:And I'm glad it's continued into
the non conference close team
768
:that is usually right on par with
us with whatever they're doing.
769
:So it's a true measuring stick.
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:One thing I'll say is they hit
obviously more home runs for us.
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:I think they have 11 on the year through
eight games Uh interesting stat for odu.
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:We've actually only given up two home runs
all season, which is very very interesting
773
:I think it was uva and then we gave up
one to to ruckers there on saturday.
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:Carson Bain is one to keep
your eye on for Charlotte.
775
:He's already hit three
home runs in 26 at bats.
776
:And then Thad Ector, he is, one of
their outfielders, really good speed
777
:guy, puts a lot of balls in play,.
778
:So those are two of their better hitters.
779
:They do have some other ones
too, but, Carson Bain and Thad
780
:Ector are two names that you
absolutely want to keep your eye on.
781
:CB: Charlotte is always there.
782
:They've been extremely competitive.
783
:Like I said, they've been a very
good Measuring stick for us.
784
:They have been pretty even they
tend to be um, uh litigious when you
785
:play them Woodard loves, going and
talking to the umpires about things.
786
:Um, so that's you know, that's just his
style He likes to do some stuff, which we
787
:had some of that gamesmanship in our game
yesterday So there that depends on the
788
:situation, you know, sometimes you got to
do it Sometimes you got to tell the umpire
789
:like hey This guy's licking his fingers.
790
:Uh, that, that happened
yesterday in the Rutgers game.
791
:We made sure we kind of let him know
and then that is certain that was
792
:that if you were watching the game or
if you're at the game yesterday, the
793
:Rutgers, the one kid would not, the
lefty would not stop licking his fingers.
794
:Um, the umpire finally had to yell at
him and say, Hey, you cannot do that.
795
:It will be a block.
796
:And he was all out of sorts after that.
797
:Um to the point where he did it again gave
up a walk to hunter cold because of it And
798
:then had to come out of the game, I guess
because he I don't know if he was saying
799
:I think he was bleeding or something.
800
:Whatever, He got in a bad habit of
the moisture thing Um, but yes, but
801
:anyway, that's so that I would expect
some kind of something along the way
802
:There'll be there will be some long
break where the the unc head coach
803
:is uh, The unc I I I went to us.
804
:I went to charlotte back in
uh, like 99 to Oh two or so.
805
:So I still call it unc charlotte in my
head because it was just The uncc is
806
:predating just calling it charlotte.
807
:So i'm old school on that one Um,
but I graduated from ultimate.
808
:I love ultimate much more.
809
:Uh, so I will have no problem.
810
:There will be no issues here
811
:Gary: I, uh, I, I just go in, uh, I
think I call Charlotte now the scene
812
:of the famous toastery incident.
813
:I think I'm just going
to leave it at that.
814
:Um, because that's, that's all
that that was down there a couple
815
:months ago, but a couple of things
I just want to see from ODU both.
816
:through East Carolina.
817
:No, we're gonna face a great team
there and obviously a really good
818
:team with Charlotte over the weekend.
819
:We're only hitting about 2 16 as a team
right now with a 3 47 on base percentage.
820
:If we're gonna play the small ball, we
absolutely have to see those numbers
821
:go up, have more games like Sunday
and then say Friday and then the
822
:first part of the game on Saturday.
823
:6 41 O.
824
:P.
825
:S.
826
:That needs to go up as well.
827
:Only have nine extra
base hits on the season.
828
:Four home runs, five doubles.
829
:So I think a few more gappers, a few
more balls into the outfield, uh, in
830
:terms of singles, doubles, triples.
831
:Uh, I would love to, to see some
of those bats come together.
832
:Some of those guys that
have been scuffling a little
833
:bit to start the season.
834
:We'd love to see them get that
opportunity to break out a little
835
:bit here in Charlotte with hopefully
some better weather at home.
836
:CB: I was looking at the weather today for
the next few weeks, we might let's enjoy
837
:tuesday Um, hopefully we'll just think
happy thoughts because it was making me
838
:depressed looking at the weather forecast,
but that's also, you know, things change.
839
:So hopefully we'll, hopefully
we'll have a good time.
840
:And like I said, tomorrow
should be great weather.
841
:And then hopefully for
the weekend, we'll, we'll
842
:figure it
843
:Gary: And I would encourage fans to.
844
:Definitely come to the bud this year.
845
:We've got a lot of home games, especially
early in the season, because if the
846
:plans and the timeline stays the same,
there will not be games at the bud.
847
:Next year, we're probably going
to do a lot of road trips.
848
:Uh, we're going to be playing some
at Harbor park over at war Memorial.
849
:So the bud may not be a place
you get to go to next year.
850
:And we've been through that in
:
851
:We're not able to go to games
and it wasn't a whole lot of fun.
852
:Uh, so just keep that in mind,
especially as the weather gets better.
853
:Get over the butt.
854
:If you can show the team, some support,
head over to rally alley, see Liz,
855
:get some, get some beverages in you.
856
:It's a great environment
to watch a baseball game.
857
:CB: Liz, I can now remember
Liz's name of the day.
858
:I felt so bad.
859
:She's like the best
860
:person on the planet.
861
:Gary: I'm hoping to have koozies available
for her by the Northeastern series.
862
:If it's not that one, it will definitely
be Georgia Southern, but we'll have some
863
:koozies to give away to all of our fans
down there to come free with your beer.
864
:So definitely just.
865
:head over to the bud.
866
:I've had a blast getting down there
a little bit more this year and
867
:enjoying some things, even if it
means running off to to Chartway
868
:afterwards for a basketball game.
869
:And I would also tell fans too, if you're
staying in the Norfolk area after the
870
:baseball game, head over to Chartway.
871
:Women's basketball is
playing Georgia Southern.
872
:They're in a spot where if they win.
873
:Uh, there'll be one of the top four seeds
and they set up a game to decide the
874
:third seed on Friday against hated JMU.
875
:So a lot of good stuff going on with
ODU sports right now on, on top of
876
:a big news day for ODU men's hoops.
877
:CB: Yeah, my plan, tomorrow and
Friday is, uh, rush out of work as
878
:fast as I possibly can, catch the
end of the baseball game, and then
879
:head over to the women's basketball.
880
:I've been going to women's basketball
games with my parents for the last,
881
:you know, eight, ten years, and
I love watching the women's team.
882
:They're extremely exciting.
883
:So, yeah, please watch it.
884
:Definitely come out of the book.
885
:This is the baseball podcast,
but uh, go and support od women's
886
:basketball They've been phenomenal.
887
:They're extremely exciting to watch
888
:Gary: Yeah.
889
:And don't sell yourself short, Stevie.
890
:You've become a celebrity with the
ODU women's basketball team because
891
:the pictures and some of the videos
and stuff that you've gotten it,
892
:they show on the Jumbotron and
get super hyped on for Instagram.
893
:So you're a local
celebrity there for coach.
894
:Schmilton Jones's squad.
895
:CB: I did not know that but
896
:that's cool
897
:Gary: Awesome.
898
:Well, did we miss anything CB?
899
:Like, I feel like we covered
everything the best we could for
900
:a one in three weekend without
getting too down in the dump.
901
:So hat tip to the boys for pulling
902
:CB: i'm, sure
903
:Gary: do it
904
:CB: Yeah, I'm sure a parent will tell
me at some point I missed something,
905
:but I, I, your, your child is great.
906
:I'm a big fan of all of them.
907
:No, I, I'm, you know, they're really
good kids and, you know, it was a
908
:tough week, but we're going to get,
they're going to get right back on
909
:the horse and they're going to fight.
910
:And, uh, we, we got a week
here with opportunity.
911
:We're going to play two really strong
programs and hopefully come out of
912
:here and get some wins and, and have
a good time and see some baseball.
913
:So I'm, I'm as always extremely excited
to get to watch ODU baseball this week.
914
:Gary: for us at the Hudson homers podcast.
915
:Thank you all so much for listening.
916
:Don't forget to tell your
friends, like, and subscribe on
917
:your favorite podcast platform.
918
:Go Monarchs.
919
:CB: Go Monarchs.
