Episode 11

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1st Apr 2025

S2E11 - App State Recap w/ Zach Leite

CB, Gary and Coach Finny recap the series at App State and look ahead to UVA and a home series with Troy at Harbor Park. Zach Leite stops by to chat about his hot start to the season and his journey to ODU from Southern California.

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Yeah, yeah.

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Hello, I'm on our fans.

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Welcome back to the Hudson Homers podcast.

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I'm Gary joined, as always by cb.

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We will have, uh, coach Finwood joining us here in a little bit.

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And then, uh, Zach Lee is our player guest this week.

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Cb how was your weekend?

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It was good.

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Saw high school baseball.

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That was fun.

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Saw Cape Henry a few times.

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Uh, saw Lansdown, so I got to see one of our guys, cam Teon,

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who's coming, uh, to us next year.

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He is a, a massive first baseman.

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He had a, a great three hit day with a double lansdown beat him.

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Uh, so it was pretty good.

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Yeah, I gotta see, um, uh, Bailey Matela younger brother

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Harley play for the first time.

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That was cool.

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He used, played, pitched a couple times, both games I saw and, um, saw

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some, uh, ODU royalty and the, uh, and Tim Hummel is out there coaching

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with Cape Henry and his brother Rusty, also an ODU alum as a pitcher.

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Uh, and saw both, both of them with their sons of the team.

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So it was a good time.

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That's awesome.

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I think the first baseman, you pointed him out to me at War

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Memorial a couple weeks ago and Yeah.

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You can't convince me that kid's like 17, 18 years old.

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Yeah, he's a monster.

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He, I saw him, uh, he was at like a fall ball game, uh, and I didn't even recognize

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him 'cause I hadn't seen him since the spring and he, he got even bigger, like

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he was already a big kid and got bigger.

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So yeah, he's, uh, hopefully he is him.

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Get him and Tanner Shado a couple of big dudes right from

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right here in the 7, 5, 7.

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That would be a nice addition, a big towering figure at first base.

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Uh, 'cause man, if he can swing it that matches, if he can swing

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it the way his size is, he's gonna hit a lot of home runs for us.

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So, excited about that.

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Excited about the future.

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I know you're catching a little bit of baseball after

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we record tonight too, right?

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Yeah.

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Trying to get over to, uh, Greenbrier Christian, uh, Jackson.

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Okonkwo, who's another one of our, our local kids, uh, who's played

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with him and Cam played together since they were little kids.

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Uh, he said he is pitching tonight, so I was like, oh yeah, I got, I, I'll bust

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over so I'll be rude to Gary as soon as this is over and say, alright, good job.

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And then exit immediately and, and go run over.

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I told him he's gotta pitch more than two innings so I can get

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that over there and see him.

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Yes.

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Yeah.

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We'll, we'll get you over there quickly.

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I have to do similar things with work travel this week.

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Okay.

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And of course getting back into town Thursday night.

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Yeah.

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So I can drive down to Norfolk for the games at Harbor Park

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this weekend against Troy.

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I know I'll be there Friday, Saturday.

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I don't think I'm gonna be able to stick around and make it to the Sunday

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game, but definitely watching, but.

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Uh, excited to see the guys back in action and a pretty

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good Troy team coming to town.

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But before we talk about Troy, we gotta talk about the week that was,

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uh, monarchs go one in three this week.

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Uh, they lose a, a tough road game at ETSU.

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I think if you could see if you saw the video of that, you can see

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how that stadium plays a little bit like a band box and man, they are a

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good hitting team in their ballpark.

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Then, uh, drop the first two against App state.

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Little impromptu double header.

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We get the second game and salvage a win.

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Uh, but not, not the week I think we were hoping for, but I don't know if

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it should necessarily be unexpected.

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Yeah, I mean, it was just a continuation of some of the, the

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problems they've been having.

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You know, they, they really, yeah.

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You know, the pitching in general wasn't like outstanding,

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but it really wasn't terrible.

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What really was not good was our hitting.

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I mean, we had, uh, I think we had 15 hits in the second game Saturday.

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And I, I've just looked at it.

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We had 18 hits in the three games combined before that, and

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that's 10 in the game on Tuesday.

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So we then we had, uh, I, what was that?

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The five three and five three in the game on Friday and five

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in the first game Saturday.

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So, I mean, if you're not, and we actually were putting the ball in play a lot too.

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We weren't even striking out much.

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That, that's the funny part.

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Um, was this only six strikeouts in the Friday, or that's the first game.

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Saturday, only five strikeouts in the Friday game.

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Only seven strikeouts in the Tuesday in the Wednesday game.

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So, I mean, it's not like we were going up there just hacking and missing,

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they actually we're putting the ball in play, but just, it was either right

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at guys or it just wasn't getting down.

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So it's, that was a new kind of frustration that was just dovetailing

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with the old kind of frustration.

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And I, I noticed from all the pitchers really we faced this week, they were

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filling up the zone early in the count.

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They were not given too many opportunities for our guys to

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get, you know, plus counts.

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Get those two ones, get those three ones they were pitching to soft contact.

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They were eating around the edges and getting called strikes and it was, it was

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just tough getting a lot of soft contact.

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I'm happy to see we aren't striking out as much 'cause at least.

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Yeah, you put the ball in play, something can happen.

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You can stay in the game.

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Uh, I know the first part of the season's been really frustrating to watch some

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of those bat guys swinging right over top of the ball trying to, trying to

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hit that 97 mile an hour fastball.

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That's up and in that you're never gonna do anything with.

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So positive to see the contact.

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Just wish it would've been a little bit harder contact and, uh, maybe,

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maybe get a couple breaks our way.

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I think that Friday game at, at Boone, and we'll ask Coach Finwood,

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When he comes on, it seemed like the wind was actually dead in Boone for

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the first time in recorded history.

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'cause uh, Tanner again hits one to the track in that game that I think on a

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normal win day in Boone would've been clearing the fence by 30 or 40 feet.

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Uh, so not, not the best conditions, but APP was playing in it too.

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And man, that's it.

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It, it can be a little bandbox there when it gets going.

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They know how to hit well in their park.

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And I feel like ETSU is pretty similar in that regard too,

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of just mountain baseball.

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Yeah.

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That, uh, the kid Caleb cross the Friday picture.

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I mean, you know, you.

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Seven, no hit innings.

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Right?

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I mean, that was, that guy was pretty outstanding.

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And like I said, it wasn't mowing guys down, striking 'em all out.

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It was just putting them, they put the ball in play and

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nothing getting out of it.

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Um, yeah, Tanner is, he's at least, you know, hitting the ball of the wall is

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better than not hitting the ball, I guess.

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You know, it's, it's still frustrating, but it's, it's nice to see him.

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He was a little bit sick down there in Auburn, so I think he's finally

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gotten healthy and strong again.

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And, um, you know, they, I like the, I like getting to play in the

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outfield some, you know, he's, he's not most, he's not bad in the outfield.

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I mean, he was a, he was a shortstop most of high school, so he is athletic enough.

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He's just not, he hadn't played out there a ton.

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Uh, but it's, it's nice to get that bat in that lineup that way.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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And, um, I thought we had a, a really good second game on Saturday, which

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is naturally the one game that I was not able to watch this entire week.

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So maybe I'm the, the bad luck when it comes to games on the road.

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Well, that, that was

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the one that I was able to watch every single pitch of.

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So maybe, yeah, we need, we have the right mojo.

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Yeah, we gotta, we gotta figure out this combo, uh, and, and get

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some more wins on the board here.

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But we, we had to battle a good bit in that game.

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We had to come back, uh, with the scoring two runs there in the ninth.

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We had to hold off App State late.

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They made a run.

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But it does feel a lot better to come out of that series with the win.

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But I think he said, was it the, the mud breaking, you're kind of, you're

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getting the, the win on the way out to feel better on the way home, but not,

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not getting a series win like you wanted.

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But

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yeah,

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tough to get that series win down at app.

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It's, I mean, it's hard to win a series on the road no matter who you're

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playing, especially in conference.

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But yeah, you know, you, you, that's the problem of you didn't

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hit enough in the first two games to give yourself even a chance.

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Uh, so what they did in this third game is they hit a lot.

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They, they put the ball in play and got some great hits.

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Uh, Zach Leite had a three hit game.

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Um, let see, Jack Slater had a great, had a three hit.

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Jack Slater, he's been playing.

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Yeah.

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Great lately.

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Um, Scotty Young, uh, on base, I think four different times.

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TJ was on four times.

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I mean, these guys were.

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They were filling it up and the pitching did just what they needed to do.

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You know, Blake wasn't amazing, but he was a, he was a senior leader.

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He got through it.

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Uh, Frankie Wright had a great outing in relief, uh, in the middle relief

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too scoreless when we needed him.

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And then Kellen and Bailey, you know, again, they weren't perfect.

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Uh, they, they struggled a little bit, but they got through it.

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And that's, sometimes that's all you can do is just get through.

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I mean, I was telling, uh, Kellen after that, we were at the airport after

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that game in Southern Miss, and I said, look, man, at a certain point it was

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just like, Hey, we need to not give up three runs before we get six outs.

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I said, sometimes that's just the math.

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Like, just don't give up X amount of runs before you get X amount

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of outs or y amount of outs, whatever the equations are.

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I'm not math guy.

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Yeah, I was not a math major either.

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Uh, we saw Maverick Stallings come to life a little bit at the plate

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for the first time this season, so that was, that was good to see him.

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That's a neat, a bat we definitely need back in the lineup.

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But I see down below that we have a guest that has joined us now.

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Hey, coach Finney, how's it going?

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Let's go.

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How we doing?

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What's up Finny?

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Good to be back.

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Uh, sorry I'm a little bit late with navigating some traffic.

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No worries.

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Heading that nice

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hat on.

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Thats all.

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Always, always ing.

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Yeah.

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Had to get it

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back from the dry cleaners.

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Right?

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There we go.

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Yeah.

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The uh, yeah, I heard, I heard some of that.

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I heard, I heard the comment about Stallings.

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Yes, you're definitely right.

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It was nice to see him swing the bat a little bit better.

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We need to get him back in, uh, second half of the season shape of last year.

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Yeah.

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He was a terror down the stretch for us last year.

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It felt like every bat he was gonna hit a bomb.

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Uh, and he, he was huge.

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I love to see that.

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Uh, we were talking a little bit about how the offense looked a little bit

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different over the last four games.

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The cut down on the strikeouts, put more balls in play.

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Uh, so just wondering if, if you had any thoughts on the kind of a

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lot of pitching to soft contact.

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It seemed like we were getting there filling up the zone early.

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Yeah, we um, we've been certainly working on it, you know, and, and unfortunately.

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If you don't want to hit a bunch of fungos to the infielders either, uh, game one

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of the double header on Saturday, man.

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Golly.

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Um, it's just, you know, continuing to work on trying to shorten the swings

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and I was proud of how we, we competed at the plate, uh, in the, you know,

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the back end of the double header.

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Um, and we finally got some, you know, big hits.

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Um, you know, can, and George had a better week swinging the bat.

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He drove some balls, made a, you know, a couple mechanical adjustments

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with him, and I think it was helpful.

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Um, but again, you know, this team isn't, isn't quite put together

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the way most of my teams are.

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I, I like lefthanded hitters.

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And finally, after game one Saturday, I said, you know, Dagum it we're

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putting all the lefties in the lineup.

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We had four, which gives you more balance in there.

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You know, that's about the best we can do positionally and, uh, on a given day, but.

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Um, you know, and the top was good.

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I mean, TJ had a good day, let off the game of the home run.

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He had another hit.

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Scotty, uh, young had a good day.

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He had a couple knocks and walked twice.

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He was on base four times.

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Um, and Zach Lee had was three for three with the, you know, the biggest one

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being in the top of the ninth there.

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Hit the double to kind of get us going with one out, and

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then came and doubled him in.

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And, you know, Ron had the big hit there to, you know, to give us, give us

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a two run cushion, um, which was huge.

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So, uh, it's a hard place to play.

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App State, man.

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The turfs a little different.

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It's, they're good, you know, they, they compete.

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I, I think they do as good a job with their hitting approaches

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as anybody in the league.

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Like, they're, they're tough outs, man.

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Like, they make you pay and they stay in the zone.

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And I was trying to tell our guys, you know, like, ah, they got a lot

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of blue pits and stuff like that.

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They did.

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But you get those when you're in the zone.

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Not when you're bailing out or, or spinning off balls, you know, you

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get those when you're in the zone and that's something, you know,

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to learn from an opponent, which, you know, is always a good idea.

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Um, we didn't, you know, game one, we didn't pitch well.

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I mean, Ben kind of was struggling out there.

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Uh, their mounds a little different.

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Like they got a, this, it's crazy.

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I've never seen anything like it.

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They have this piece of rubber, it's a turf mound to begin with, but they have

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this piece of rubber on the front of it.

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It's just rubber and it's raised up and it's, it's unusual.

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Um, and Ben, you know, we, we were there Thursday night and practiced.

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The guys knew about it and Ben was trying to figure out how to navigate it, and

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he did the worst thing he could do.

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He got over on the side of the mound where none of his stuff was balanced up.

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You noticed he missed a lot on his arm side high.

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Mm-hmm.

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And I think that was partially because of his alignment.

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So, you know, and having said that, it's still a four nothing game going

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into, you know, whatever the sixth or.

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Seventh and, um, we just weren't getting any big hits and, you know, um, uh, LaVar

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and, and, um, who, who'd we pitch behind?

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LaVar?

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Scott.

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Scott.

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Scott did, didn't do the job, so they got us out of it.

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Um, and then in, in game one, you know, we didn't pitch poorly.

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I mean, Dylan threw, you know, one, the, the, the misses were loud though.

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He, that change up, that got hit outta the park.

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Hurt Us a little bit.

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The positive though, I think if you take something positive, uh,

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overall from the weekend, uh, was Hubble came in that game and mm-hmm.

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Threw score, threw the ball really well.

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Um, and then, you know, Blake, Blake battled his butt off.

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I mean, we, we caught some 25 pitches on defense.

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Um, which is why we played three different third bases.

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You don't see that every day, but, you know, routine plays, and I'm

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always after for those infielders, you know, your job's to save the pitch

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of pitches, not add to his pitches.

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And both of those plays were easy plays.

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We just screwed them up.

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Um, but he battled, man.

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He really battled and gave us five strong innings, you know, kept us in it.

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And I thought Frankie Wright and, and Kellen got a little bit unlucky.

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We struck the guy out and it was breaking ball in the dirt and kicked away.

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Mm-hmm.

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You know, or, or they don't score in the, in the bottom

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of the eighth, I don't think.

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Uh, and then Bailey did a good job, you know, he, he, he, after they tied it up,

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man, he made a huge pitch base, loaded two outs in the bottom of the eighth.

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Corre was having a pretty good weekend, and he struck them out and then, uh,

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hung on there in the, in the ninth.

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So.

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I mean, you see it across the board.

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A lot of teams get swept, especially on the road.

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And, you know, if you can keep from getting swept, we've been saying

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that, you know, it, hold, serve at home, then you got a chance.

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And so just getting that one is, is a big deal.

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So, um, I was proud of the guys for that.

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And we, we, we, we got a, you know, I, I think, uh, the other guy I didn't

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mention, you know, bullpen wise is veins.

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Um, I thought he threw the ball really well.

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In fact, their coach was like, oh my gosh, we didn't have a chance to miss that guy.

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When he's on, he's something.

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Yeah.

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And he is starting to become a little more consistent.

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Mm-hmm.

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You know, um, he just has to stay away from the free bases, you

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know, the walks and hit batters.

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And he's a good guy to throw behind Ben Moore.

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'cause they're, it's similar stuff from the complete opposite side.

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It's like a mirror image of, of itself.

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And, um, down the stretch, I think, you know, so you got,

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you got veins, you got right.

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You got Davis, you got Nutella, you got some guys starting to, you know, emerge

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out of the bullpen that you can count on.

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And, and that's big.

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So, um, I, I'm, I'm happy to see that kind of coming along to,

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to go along with our starters.

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Yeah.

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And you gotta look at a lot of different arms in the game against East Tennessee

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and I think you, I think you used nine pitchers, eight or nine pitchers.

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Yeah.

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But, uh, Ja, Jayce Park looked pretty good to start that game.

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Was that kind of the plan to just basically give an ending out each, or,

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uh, were you hoping get a longer look?

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It was

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that day, you know, and this part of the, it's the catch 22, you know, not knowing

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what we can depend on on the weekend.

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We figure we need everybody available.

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I prefer to have him throw more than one inning and hopefully he will tomorrow.

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Mm-hmm.

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Um, hopefully he'll pitch good enough to throw two or three innings.

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We'll see.

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Um, I thought Alex Hunt was the only guy that threw in that game

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against East Tennessee State.

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That was good.

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I mean, baes was okay, but.

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You know, it, it is just like the ball was, the wind was

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blowing out, the ball was flying.

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We actually swung the bats pretty good, but we just, you know, didn't

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pitch good enough to, to stop them.

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They're a good offensive team and, and at home especially.

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So, um, that was a, a day we didn't pitch good enough.

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But, you know, Saturday in that doubleheader, we pitched really well.

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And really after the, you know, I, I was really happy with, um,

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with how the guys competed in, in that second game especially.

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That's a long day, man.

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I mean, yeah, 18 innings of baseball, nobody really wants to do that.

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Um, I was glad we were able to play some different guys in that second game

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because they were excited about playing.

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They were tired.

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Um, and they got in, you know, Scotty and TJ in particular got

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in and, and did a good job for us.

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So, uh, then Ron came back in and, and did, we're gonna, we're gonna try Ron

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out at third, a little bit tomorrow.

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He played there some in the fall and.

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You know, we just need to get some solidity going in that, in, in our lineup.

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It's just been, it's really frustrating, you know, 'cause

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I, I'm not built that way.

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Like, I prefer to have a more set lineup and know who's playing and we

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just haven't been able to have enough consistency yet this year to do that.

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Um.

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So hopefully, um, you know, some of these guys that are older will get in there and,

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you know, start picking it up here for us.

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Yeah.

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I was out at a few high school games this weekend and, you know, of course people

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talk to me about ODU and one guy was, you know, I was like, wow, they really haven't

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had like that much of a set lineup.

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I was like, we're dying for guys to tell Finny they need

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to be in a lineup every day.

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Yeah.

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We're, we're not having enough guys that come up and say, you must play me that.

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You can't, there's no other option for you but to play me.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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And play, you know, you get your chance, you play well and it's not

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even about, I don't need you to go four for four 'cause baseball is hard.

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I just need to see competitive.

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I, I, I thought TJ was, his bats were more competitive.

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Mm-hmm.

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You know, we've been talking to him about that and, you know, his grit

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was in there and he sparked us.

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I thought Scotty Young gave us a little spark.

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You know, those, those guys and we just need some toughness in there

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and, and guys that are gonna battle.

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And, you know, Scotty's a good defender.

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He can run, he can bond.

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Um, you know, he's gotta get the ball and play, which he did.

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Uh, and he was on base four out of five times up.

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Man, that's, that's winning baseball.

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Um, that's what we're after.

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Uh, especially at one time you had

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both those guys on base and I was like, man, lead hits it anywhere.

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They're both gonna score.

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Yeah, yeah.

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Yeah.

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And it

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maybe that's what happened.

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Maybe we'll help Zach get more fastballs to hit too, you know, with having some

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speed on base in, in front of him.

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And Scotty's a real aggressive base run.

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Of course.

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He, you know, he overs slid third base and the first thing that cost us a run.

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Um, and then he should have just kept going on the one pass

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ball and he hesitated twice.

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Yeah.

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And I was

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like, dude, when you're 20 feet from home plate, there's no,

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no turning back, keep going.

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No turning back's.

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Not gonna do anything good, I promise you.

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Yeah.

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Uh, I think he'd have scored both times.

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Um, yeah.

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But you know, he, he is a, he is an aggressive kid.

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He cares, he is one of our best guys in the dugout when he isn't playing

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and he hasn't gotten a ton of chances.

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And I think now it's time to.

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You know, give them some shots.

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Yeah.

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And I like left-handed hitters.

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I mean, it's just not a ton of good lefties.

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We haven't, I was asking our staff how many good left-handed

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starters or relievers have we seen this year across the board?

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You know, Southern miss had two lefty starters.

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I like the freshmen on Sunday.

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The Saturday guy was below average.

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Um, I thought, and you know, so again, you know, back to recruiting

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philosophy, like I said, I, I don't know how we got away from this.

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It's my fault 'cause I allowed it to happen.

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But you get left-handed headers, especially outfielders, like

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don't come talk to me about right-handed hitting outfielder.

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I don't even want to hear about it unless it, like Andy Garland

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can hit it out there in the road.

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Right.

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Yeah.

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We'll make some exceptions.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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The outliers, uh, you know, you get a center field or like a Kyle

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Battle or Connor Meyers or mm-hmm.

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Somebody like that.

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Yeah.

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You make an exception for that, but.

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You can't have just a run of the mill right-handed hitting outfielder.

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'cause it's, it's harder to get your balance then because catchers

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and, um, infielders just harder to find left-handed hitters.

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Mm-hmm.

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At those positions you can find left-handed outfielders, um, easier

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and you need to go after those guys so you can have a balanced lineup.

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You know, we've just been so right-handed, um, and just been

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getting chewed up by righties.

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Um, I mean, if you need a

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right-handed outfielder, you half the time you end up, it's a former

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infield, like a Luke Waters guy.

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You, you need to go out and find him.

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Guy.

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Yeah,

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guy you convert out there.

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'cause he could hit and, um, you know, and, and Luke's a guy, we gotta get going.

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I mean, he's mm-hmm.

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Starting to show signs and then, you know, it's like two

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steps forward, one step back.

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Um, his VP today practice was good.

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He was better, you know, working on stuff and he's trying, man, he

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is just, you know, you're getting these funks like this and mm-hmm.

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It, it, you just don't know when you're gonna come out of it.

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Um, you know, I thought maybe he had the two home runs on the

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Saturday game at Southern Miss.

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Maybe he's coming out of the den.

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But, um, it's, uh, hopefully he will, uh, you know, he has at least been

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making more productive outs.

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He's had a lot of like ground balls over to the right side, and he's had, he's

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had, he's probably leave the team in rbis on like ground outs and flyouts.

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Yeah.

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So at least and, and,

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and, and you're right.

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And he did line out four times, uh, on, on Saturday in the double header.

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So, you know, that's the, when it ain't going great, that's, that's what

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happens, right when it's going great.

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Those balls blo over the second baseman head, uh, it looked like

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line hit one off the handle, right in the, in the box score.

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Right?

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Everybody goes, oh man, that guy was three for four, you know?

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Yeah.

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But when it's not going great, you, those are line outs and that's just,

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that's just what's happening right now.

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We gotta just keep fighting and try to turn it around.

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So, um, you know, the, the Tuesdays, like you mentioned,

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Gary, and, and the pitching.

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We, you know, we've gotta, we've gotta understand, you know, we

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gotta have, make sure our best bullpen guys, like those guys we

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count on are fresh for the weekend.

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Yep.

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Um, and so you probably can't throw them much, um, and, and in those types of

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games, but hopefully some of the younger guys can step up and throw the ball.

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Well, I mean, it's never easy against, uh, Virginia's offense is always

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very disciplined and, you know, they're, they're hard to strike out.

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So, uh, you gotta make plays behind 'em and hopefully

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we'll do that tomorrow night.

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Speaking of Virginia, I was, we were just looking at the stats, I

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was shocked to see our, our, my guy Harrison Wick from West Western Branch

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Yeah.

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Can happen.

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Uh, really scuffle him this year.

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Yeah.

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Him and waters are similar stat.

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Yeah.

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I keep, but he's, do you,

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have you heard any reason what's going on?

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Or just troubles?

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No, I haven't.

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I haven't.

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It's um.

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You hate seeing that when a kid turns down bunch money and comes back and then Yeah.

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That's unfortunate that that's not good for anybody.

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Um, you know, because the naysayers are all, oh, he should have

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signed, you know, what they doing.

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I mean, Virginia guys are really good coaches, I promise you.

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They're not screw.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Uh, and, and, and he is a great kid too.

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I mean, great.

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He's a hell of a ball player.

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He's just going through it.

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He a fantastic ball player and.

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Recruited him a lot when he was, you know, in high school and know his dad.

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Oh.

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I remember

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seeing him when he was like 14 and I was like, oh man, there's

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no way he's gonna end up ODU.

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That's unfortunate.

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I was like, I know y'all were going after him.

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I know, I, every time I, it was like, oh yeah.

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Every time I saw him, the OU man we're pretty great.

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We're right here.

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Yeah.

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I and dad can watch it.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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We were hopeful, but so yeah, it can happen to good players, man.

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Yeah.

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Good players can get in funks and you just gotta hope they can If they go in

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one, they go in one earlier in the year.

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Yeah, yeah.

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Maybe then they come out of it.

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Um, and, you know, kinda like Luke and Maverick.

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Mm-hmm.

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Maybe if those guys can get going, um, you know, that can

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really be a, a big shock for us.

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So

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Yeah.

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Because yeah, we haven't quite reached the halfway point.

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That's kind of more or less Yeah.

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This weekend.

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So, I mean, you, there's plenty of season left to do some stuff.

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Yeah, yeah.

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For sure.

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Absolutely.

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So, yeah, and, you know, and 21 conference games left, so, you know, you figure

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you probably gotta win 11 of 'em or thereabouts to get in the tournament.

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Um, and so, you know, you gotta play a little bit better than 500

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baseball and give yourself a shot.

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Yeah.

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And I, I think, uh, you were talking about the coaching staff at uva.

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I think Oak got 900 wins after they swept Stanford over the

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weekend, so Yeah, I think he was,

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yeah, that's awesome.

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Doing, doing some good stuff there.

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Uh, I, I was gonna ask you too, Jack Slater, uh, caught the second

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doubleheader, which he may have been catching on Sunday, if would've

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been on Sunday anyway, but Right.

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He had three hits and I think that's kind of been a missing piece of the

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lineup a little bit, is offensive production from that catcher spot.

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No doubt.

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Jack had, you know, our, our best offensive day of

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the year behind the plate.

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And, uh, that was good to see.

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And again, he is a left-handed hitter and good for him, man.

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He hit all three of those balls hard.

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I thought the one he hit for the double might have a chance to get

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out when he hit it, because that's where the ball was going out.

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Uh, left, left field, left center that day.

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But you know, he had good at bats for us and.

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He is a battler, you know, he is a senior and comes from a baseball

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family and, and really cares.

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And you know, Evan just hadn't been swinging back good left handed at all.

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And so I think what we may try to do originally in the game, one morale

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Effin was gonna catch, but he got hit, you know, his lasted battle on Friday.

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He had a bone contusion kind of in his lat rib area.

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He couldn't even swing.

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And I don't think he'll swing tomorrow.

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We're we're, we think he'll be fine by this weekend.

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Um, so he couldn't catch.

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So, you know, we said, all right, you know, they're starting a lefty.

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Let's catch Evan in the first game, Jack in the second game.

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But I think where we may go that way, um, and Jack will, you know, catch uh,

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against righties as much as possible.

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And then we'll see on the, on the lefty.

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So you're right, I mean, we gotta get some, some offense out of catch position.

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Um, uh, we have enough for sure.

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Yeah, I think, uh, another picture I wanted to talk to you about.

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I know we all know that Nick Sulpizio is a good pitcher.

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We have seen him do it.

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We've seen him do it on the mound.

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I is there anything specific you're working with him right now to try

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to get him back into that form that we saw from him last year?

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Like is it mental, is it from the stretch?

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Is, uh, just trying to, trying to pinpoint kinda what to think about him so far

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this year.

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He is just missing all of his spots.

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Like he's throwing the ball right down the middle and I mean, he is

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not getting any swing and misses on anything fastball, breaking ball.

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And he is not giving up a ton of like rockets.

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Like he is giving up singles and ground ball singles, but

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he's not getting anybody out.

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I mean, that's two outings in a row where you're giving up five

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runs, you know, and gotten one out.

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Um, and that blew that.

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You know, we, that blew that game open on Wednesday.

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I mean, we clawed back in, it was six five, uh, when he came back in the game.

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And by the time we got him out, it was 11 five.

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You know, and, and so, I mean, pitchers can go through slumps too, and he, he's,

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I, you know, early in the year we thought he was throwing the ball pretty good.

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And then, um, you know, his start even against Mississippi State

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was fine down there, I thought.

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And, um, then, uh, just kind of taking a step back.

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So yeah, he's, he's a very talented kid.

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He's gotta really work hard on, you know, some things I think mentally, I think,

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you know, uh, just competitively, I think sometimes it starts going sideways for

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him and he just gets a shoulder slumped in his body language turns south and it,

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you know, when you do that, man, like you, I, I tell the guys all the time like,

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you have to do things to give yourself a chance to get rewarded in this game.

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Like the baseball guides are always watching.

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And if you're bad body language and you mop around, TJ Aiken and I have had this

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talk and you just look like, oh, poor me man, they're never gonna help you.

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But if you suck it up and fight through the tough times and you hustle and

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you, you know, play the game the right way, you'll get rewarded eventually.

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That's how the game works.

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And it's the same thing on the mound.

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Like you gotta hit your spot and you can't throw the ball down the middle, but you

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can't give up either because when you give up the whole team's energy goes south.

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'cause you're the guy standing in the middle of all of it and

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everybody's looking at you and it's like blood in the water.

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And as I say, that energy transfers to the other team 'cause they can

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see it and feel it and they're like, let's kill 'em, you know?

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Um, oh, listen to the broadcast.

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It sounded like Friday night at app might've been the least win they've ever

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had there for a baseball game, because I know we had a couple to the track

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that just didn't have that win push.

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I know.

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Yeah.

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Kainen hit one of the right field that got caught right at the wall,

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and I think there was maybe Leite might, maybe there was another one.

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Um, but yeah, I mean, again, you know, we just, we just, their,

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their guy, I'll give him credit.

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He kept hitting the, the spot down in a way.

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And the Empire was giving it to him, and we just didn't make enough

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adjustments, um, in that, you know, to, to make him have to change.

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And, um, you know, he, he threw it in there.

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He did a good job.

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But, you know, he can't, he can't take anything away from him.

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Certainly.

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So, no, no.

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He, and, and we gotta figure out something with Ben.

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It it's uncanny.

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Like Ben starts during the day.

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This is, this is baseball stuff, right?

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His day starts with Ben.

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Been very good.

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Um, Georgia Tech, the home, and maybe, maybe it's only been two

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home against, um, Georgia State.

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Mm-hmm.

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Yep.

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Um, it was night game.

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Uh, second Charlotte was a a day game and e threw three, four good

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innings and, and that one, but his nighttime starts have been not good.

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Auburn, it wasn't very good.

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Um, you know, uh, the, um, well, the, uh, who we call Southern Miss St.

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St. Bonaventure Southern Miss.

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He came in, it was night and, and this past weekend, and so I don't

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know what, what's going on at night.

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Maybe he's a reverse vampire.

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Yeah, I know.

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But I was like, do we just need to start pitching in during the day?

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Yeah.

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Um, is it an eyesight thing?

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I mean, that's how I wonder sometimes I see guys I'm like, you know, especially

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after ney a few years ago where these guys just don't realize they can't see.

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Yeah.

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Well, you

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think hitters see the ball worse at night?

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I mean, that's what everybody says.

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Yeah.

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Um, you, you see the ball better in the daytime, but, uh, I don't know.

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So hopefully I'll turn that around this weekend.

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But, you know, I'm thinking about those last couple series at, at,

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uh, war Memorial and maybe we just play those all day games.

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Yeah.

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Well maybe by then you'll have enough daylight to maybe save light till about

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eight o'clock and you can get through the first six and then you're, you're set.

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'cause I mean, we're 6 35 here and I could still play baseball outside.

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Right?

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Yeah.

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Good.

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Got another hour or so of daylight.

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But, so we got Harbor Park this weekend.

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We got Troy coming in who's, you know, playing very well.

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I think they're in second place right now.

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Um, and you know, they had three really close games with Marshall this week.

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Yeah, yeah,

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they did.

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Pretty

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low scoring for at Troy.

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Mm-hmm.

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I thought I, I was looking, 'cause I said, are those games at Marshall?

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'cause Marshall, you know, field can play very big, uh, but Troy's not, and

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those games were pretty low scoring, so Marshall must have pitched them.

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Pretty well.

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Um, yeah, I think it was,

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it was what, four three?

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Four three?

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And I think, what was the last game?

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Was it six, seven to six?

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Yeah.

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6, 6 5. Yeah.

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Six five.

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Yeah.

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And Marshall got that last game

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and Marshall got him once.

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So that, um, yeah, that's, uh, you know, and we know the lefty

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Blevins is really good for Marshall.

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Mm-hmm.

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I mean, he's, he's been good in the past, but, so yeah.

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So they, um, Troy's got good pitching too.

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Um, you know, they, they, they've got an older group and.

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Um, they like to play, so we gotta make sure we, we play well against them.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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It should be some good time for baseball and I'll be down

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there for Friday and Saturday.

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Would love to get a ton of fans out there, make that feel like home.

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I saw a picture from Harbor Park, uh, just the other day and there was a, a Tides

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game or something, uh, going on there.

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That's an early season for them.

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Uh, but there were a lot of, there a lot of people wearing ODU gear in

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those stands for the Tides games.

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So.

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Cool.

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I like that.

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It gives me some, some hope.

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We're gonna get a good crowd out there for this weekend.

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They got, they got brand new seats come out, enjoy those brand new

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seats, brand new help, break 'em

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in.

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Yeah.

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And um, I guess they're having some issues with the parking maybe out there.

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Mm-hmm.

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Because of, uh, the construction for the casino.

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Um, yeah, get

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there early, that's

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for sure.

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Think

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it's only about a thousand spaces, I think they said.

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Yeah.

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So we, um, I know some people are shuttling in and things like that.

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Um, but again, it'd just be nice for the guys to have people

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cheering for 'em, you know?

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Yeah.

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I mean, we've only had that three games really this year.

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Um, you know, it's, I, I think it, I think it helps immensely sleeping in your

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own bed, having your fans cheer for you.

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And, you know, over the years we've played pretty well at Harbor Park,

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so hopefully that magic can continue.

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Yeah, we're definitely hoping.

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So I'm, I'm excited to get down there and see a game at Harbor Park and I was just

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get, enjoy some college baseball, man.

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It's a fun thing to do on a Friday night, or I think Saturday

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or three o'clock, so Perfect.

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Middle of the day.

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Won't disrupt your dinner or anything like that to come out.

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Yeah.

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'cause those, those guys played better in that Georgia State series at War Memorial.

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When that crowd started getting into it, putting some pressure on Georgia

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State, uh, it was a lot of fun.

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So.

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It'll, it'll do until the new bud is ready to roll here.

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That's right.

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That's what we gotta deal with it.

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And, um, I know, I know you guys, y'all have Zach coming on, right?

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Yeah, he's, uh, just popped him backstage actually.

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I'm really, I'm really proud of Zach.

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You know, he went through a big adjustment period I think in the fall, you know,

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trying to work on his conditioning and his, his body wasn't in great shape.

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Um, he worked really hard on that, his footwork around the bag, becoming

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a better defensive first baseman.

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I think he's improved as this year's gone on over there and just becoming

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a tougher out, you know, he was a little bit prone to strikeouts in

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the fall and man, he is got a ton of two strike hits, um, this year.

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And, you know, become a guy that's, you know, one of our better

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guys for driving runs in and.

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Hitting the ball.

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You know, you talk about a guy that uses the whole field.

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I mean, he is, you know, hit extra base hits all over the ballpark.

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So, um, I'm really proud of him.

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He's, he's been our most consistent hitter, certainly, um, from, from the get

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go and, um, hopefully we'll keep that up.

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He is a, he is a neat kid and, you know, California smoothie

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kind of guy I call him.

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But, uh, he's a good kid and we're, and I'm proud of how

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he's going about his business.

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He is a little bit banged up too.

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He got hit on the hand, um, the other day and, you know,

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he gutted out that second game.

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He had a great game for us, but he, uh, he didn't swing today.

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He is fine.

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He just needed to kind of a couple days to rest.

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Um, but he'll be in there and, you know, we're, he, he's, he is been kind of a,

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an anchor point for our lineup, uh, when a lot of guys have moved all around.

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He's been a guy right there kind of in the, in the middle

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of it, um, the whole time.

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Awesome.

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Yeah, we'll have him on here in just a little bit.

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Um, what time are y'all heading out over to Charlottesville tomorrow?

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I think we're leaving at 1245.

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And, um, you know, we'll get there and stretch takes the BP and play six o'clock.

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Looks like the weather's gonna be pretty good and um, should be a

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nice, it looks like our weather, this weekend's pretty good.

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I think it's a chance of showers maybe Saturday, but not, not,

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not too, too much I don't think at this point to worry about.

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So hopefully we will, you know, weather will be good.

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We'll get some nice good fans out there.

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It'll be a nice weekend for college baseball back in Norfolk.

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I love it.

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Now.

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Time this year back in Norfolk.

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Yeah, officially back in, in, in Norfolk.

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Yeah.

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But, uh, 6:00 PM game in Charlottesville.

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You're listening to this.

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It's today, uh, a CC Network Extra.

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And Fox Sports Radio 1310 will have the broadcast.

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I figured out the a CC network extra by the way.

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Yeah.

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How's that work?

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So you can watch it on ESPN plus if your cable or streaming

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provider has a ACC network.

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Okay.

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So if you have to have that combo to watch the games.

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I, I was good.

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'cause I think I have every sports package.

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I say, I think I have it too on Sun.

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Um, but that's how that works.

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But if not, um, I think

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What's TV provider Gary?

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I, I, I switched to YouTube tv.

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That's what I have.

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Okay.

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Yep.

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So if you have YouTube tv, you're good.

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Or about tv.

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There you go.

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I think we, I think we were okay with Cox.

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I think we had last time we wanted to watch on a CC network.

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It was fine.

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Okay.

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So.

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Gotcha.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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That's good to know.

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'cause I think a lot of people don't realize that.

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Um, but if you have the ACC network, then you can watch it on ESPN Plus.

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Okay.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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You're good.

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But if you live in Richmond or Parts West, it's only about an hour drive

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over there to park in Charlottesville.

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You can go support 'em in person.

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There you go.

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It's a beautiful ballpark if you've never been there before

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the renovations They did.

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Yeah.

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For or just, just amazing.

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Uh, so thank you

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Ryan Zimmerman.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Beautiful ballpark.

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Um,

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yeah, so, um, speaking of ballparks, so we got a little updates.

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We, we had like a couple weeks where not a whole lot was going

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on, you know, in our construction.

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And I finally talked to, just at practice today before practice the, the,

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uh, project managers, great guy Ryan.

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And he said, yeah, the design was off on part of one of the

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buildings by more than six inches.

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Oh wow.

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And he said like, two inches is up to two inches is acceptable, but six is not.

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So they had to go back to the design, re um, survey, redo that.

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Long story short, that was the issue.

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And then now, um, they're gonna start pouring the footers and the pads for.

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The building where our locker room and the offices and all that will be tomorrow.

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So that'd be nice to see some stuff going, you know, going in.

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Um, you know, it's just looked like a war zone back there.

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And, uh, you know, now, now it, uh, now, well, you know, when stuff starts going

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up, that's when you start getting excited.

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Yeah.

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So, yeah.

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Um, they're, and they're gonna wait until the middle of May to close that road down.

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Parker Avenue's gonna actually completely closed.

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Um, so they're gonna wait till after graduation, so it'll be less.

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Makes sense back there.

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Those tennis center people will be complaining like crazy.

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I'm sure

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they're gonna complain

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anyway, but Yeah, exactly.

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Mm-hmm.

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Um, so yeah, so that's a little bit of updates and.

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He, he seems to think he's not gonna put 'em off schedule.

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Um, they're just gonna have to make up some time here and there.

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But, um, you know, they, they have pretty good weather here for the next

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eight months, so, um, yeah, that, that'll be in pretty good shape.

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So still a go.

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Alright.

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Yeah, we love it.

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That's, that's all that matters.

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Still a go, still

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a Yep.

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So definitely excited for the new park, man.

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That's, that's gonna be just a game changer I think for the whole program,

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for the fan experience, for everything.

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It's,

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it is, and I, I don't think anybody, and I, I haven't, didn't, don't

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whatever really can understand, you know, the toll that this kind

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of travel can, can take on you.

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Like we, we have to have some light workouts.

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The guy's gotta, you know, told him you gotta take naps, you

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gotta rest more, you gotta.

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Because man, you know, it's just like, even today I got up and I was like,

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whew, I know those guys are tired.

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I'm gasped.

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I mean a double header and then, you know, seven hours

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back and, you know, all of that.

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So, you know, it's just, it is cumulative, right?

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Like it just keeps adding up.

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Um, so it's nice to be home for, you know, 10 days or so before we

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gotta go down to Georgia Southern.

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Even next, next Tuesday we play at Norfolk State, so it's

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still, you know, really close.

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So we won't, um, we won't have to travel much, uh, until we head down to Georgia

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Southern, and I think this is, these next nine games are, you know, could make you

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or break you in the, in the conference slate because it's nine tough ones.

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You know, you got, and you got Troy at home and you go to Georgia Southern

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and they're always really good at home.

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Um, and then you got Louisiana coming in.

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Um, and so fortunately we got, you know, six of those not at home.

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So, um, you know, that'll be.

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That'll be big.

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Yeah.

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Right now all three of those teams are in the top five of the Sunbelt.

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So you're not kidding about tough competition.

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Uh, we already know it's tough just being in the Sunbelt.

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Yeah.

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But that will will be a test you'll, you'll kind of have a pretty good

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idea of, of where you're gonna be, I think after those, those nine games.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Without a doubt.

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And, you know, after Louisiana, I think, you know, it's, none of it's easy,

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but I think the schedule lightens up a little bit for us in terms of that.

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And we just gotta hang in there through this next nine and, you know,

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do our best and, and try to win our share of 'em and then, you know,

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maybe make some hay down the stretch.

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Absolutely.

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Well, most poor game is the game tomorrow.

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UVA would love to hang another l on those guys 'cause uh, we do actually have the

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all time series lead against Virginia, so.

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Wow.

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That's good.

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Let's keep building up.

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And

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we've beaten them up there a handful of times, you know?

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Mm-hmm.

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Through the years.

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And, um, so it's not like we've never won up there.

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We've, we've won up there a few times and.

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Not, none of it's easy.

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I mean, well the one time was we whacked them pretty good in 22.

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Um, yeah,

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yeah.

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But you know, most of the other wins have been kind of, you know, back and

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forth, you know, very close games.

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Um, that was

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the, some of the best days that I had working up there.

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I'd have a hundred staff working that UVA baseball game and Odus coming

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to town and I've got my ODU shirt underneath my polo and we'd be up

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like seven to three in the ninth.

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And I'm just sitting over there going, hold on, hold on.

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It was great times.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, it was good.

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So I saw they're, you know, they're obviously playing better.

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They swept Stanford this weekend at home.

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I think so It's it's crazy to say that, isn't it?

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They SW stands, yeah, they're,

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yeah.

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Classic Atlantic coast schools, uh, say at Stanford.

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Yeah.

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It's a, they should name it all Coast Conference

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now.

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Yeah, right.

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There we go.

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There you go.

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Yeah, that work.

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So, but that's every league nowadays, so Yeah.

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You know you got UCLA playing in the big town against Rutgers.

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Yeah, good Thursday night football matchup there, right.

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Classic.

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Yeah.

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Crazy.

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So,

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well I'll let you guys get to it with Zach and as always, thanks

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fellas and any, anybody that had had any questions this week.

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No questions this week.

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But I have a feeling I'm gonna fill my little notepad at Harbor

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Park Friday and Saturdays.

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Come find me and I'll ask if you're free call find Gary.

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Yes.

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Alright.

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Yeah, yeah.

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Come find Gary.

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And thanks.

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Thanks guys.

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Good Monarchs.

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Good monarchs.

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Thanks coach.

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Thanks.

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Go monarchs.

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Monarch fans of the Hudson Homer podcast.

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We are now joined by Zach Leite, who had an awesome weekend

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on the road at App State.

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Zach, thanks so much for joining us.

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No problem.

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Thank you so much for having me on.

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Absolutely.

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I, I heard you were excited when you got the invite.

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Are we becoming like a, a thing with the baseball team now with being on the road?

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Oh yeah, absolutely.

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I mean, even my mom watches and, and lets me know about

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what's going on on the podcast.

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So

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yeah, it's, it's cool to be on here for sure.

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I think that's 90% of our listeners, but I'll gladly take that.

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Hundred

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percent.

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I'm fine with that.

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If, if our, most of our listeners are just the, the family members.

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We're good with that.

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'cause I, I met your mom there.

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We, Morris seemed a great lady.

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So that's, that was cool.

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Oh yeah.

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Is that the first time they'd be able to come out and see you play with ODU?

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Yeah, it was, it was, uh, my mom and my brother, so it was really

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cool to be able to play in front of

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' em for sure.

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And they, are they still back in California?

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Yep.

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Yep.

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Yeah.

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Okay.

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So that's all right.

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So that, we'll start there.

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You're, you're from California.

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How the heck do you end up at Old Dominion in Norfolk, Virginia?

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Yeah, so I mean, um, I got reached out to by, uh, Finney and I

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came out here on a, on a visit.

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Um, a smooth six hour flight out here.

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One way.

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Um, yeah, I just checked it out.

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I, I loved the area.

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Um, to me, it, it actually just seemed like home, so there was

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no, no real problems there.

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Um, I just loved everything about it.

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I loved all the players that I met.

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They were super nice to me, and so just felt, like I said, like home.

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So that was, that was that for me.

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That's awesome, man.

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So you're originally from Dana Point, California, which I

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have no idea where that is.

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I know California's huge.

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Can you give us us East coasters who don't know anything about it?

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Like a where kind of in the state it is?

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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So, um, if you know where San Diego is mm-hmm.

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It's just a little bit more north of San Diego.

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Okay.

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Yeah, so pretty much right there.

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Okay.

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And then you played JUCO at Orange Coast College, which is in Costa Mesa.

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So where is that in relation to, I guess, the state and then, uh, Dana Point?

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Yeah, that's also like just 30 minutes north.

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So super close to to home for me, which was, was perfect for the JUCO route.

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Yes.

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That's great.

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So how, so tell us a little about playing there at JUCO and Yeah.

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So get, get to play, I guess close to home was nice, right?

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Yeah.

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Yeah, it was really nice.

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Um, being able to, to play in front of my family every day was awesome, for sure.

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Um, yeah, being close to to home and, and, uh, the high school and everything.

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Um, playing with a lot of guys that, that I know, playing with against

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a lot of guys that I know too.

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So, yeah, I think it was a, a pretty cool environment for sure.

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Has that been like a big culture shock for you?

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I mean, 'cause that's, that's the exact opposite of what you have going now

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where you're not playing in front of your family like at all, and you're

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not playing against anybody, you know?

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Yeah.

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It's a little bit different, you know, hearing the guys talking about

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all these players that they know on different teams and me having

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no clue who really anybody is.

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It's, it's definitely a little bit, uh, different and kind of weird.

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But, I mean, I like it getting to know all these new people.

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It's, honestly, it's awesome.

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I gotta reach back in the Brain archives here from something,

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a girlfriend from long ago.

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So Dana Point's near Laguna Beach, right?

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Yeah.

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Yep.

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Okay.

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I thought I remember a reference to it in that show that I was unfortunately

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forced to watch at the time.

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Um, but that, but that area of Southern California is awesome.

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I've been out to San Diego, stayed at Mission Beach, did

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all the stuff down there.

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Like, it's a, I think people, uh, forget that that area south of LA

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exists sometimes and it's one of the best parts of California really.

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Oh yeah.

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It's, it's beautiful.

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I love growing up there.

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Doesn't, doesn't get much better than that for me.

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Yeah.

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I mean, so how is getting to play

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in the most glamorous places in like Mississippi and Alabama comparing to

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getting to play in Southern California?

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Oh, I, it is very different, but I've had a blast getting to

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play in these amazing places.

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Go to a bunch of states that I've never been to.

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I mean, yeah, I've loved every second of it.

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Yeah.

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We'll, we'll check back in with you after the Louisiana Monroe series

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and see how you're feeling on those other ballparks and things like that.

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But now, yeah, go, I

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really enjoyed that moment after you hit the home run there in Biloxi.

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I mean, you were, you were jacked up in the dugout and like, I

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got that really great picture.

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You celebrated.

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It was like, I was like, man, you know, you just see a lot of guys

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like going right for the camera.

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It's like you were, you were trying to find it that day.

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Was that, was that what it was?

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Were you just so jacked up?

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You didn't even know what was going on?

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No, I

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was, I was fired up.

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I was looking right for you.

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I wanted to get, I wanted to get a cool picture going for the fellas.

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There we go.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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That was cool.

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I love it.

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That's awesome.

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That is one of the sickest photos in ODU baseball.

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Yeah.

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That's fun.

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Yeah.

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That is awesome.

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And our RIP the chain.

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Oh man.

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I'm gonna miss it.

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It was cool to wear it for the, for the first two.

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Yeah.

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So you got the hard hat now.

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Construction helmet.

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Yeah.

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Mm-hmm.

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Oh yeah.

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The hard hat's.

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Very good.

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I like that New edition.

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Yeah.

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Very fitting for this team, because the construction's going on at home,

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but you all have just been stuck on the road pretty much the, the whole time.

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What's that experience been like for you just living in and outta

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hotels for weeks at a time?

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Um, for me, I got to get a little bit of a taste for it over the summer.

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Um, I played for a summer ball team that also had no home field,

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so we were traveling everywhere.

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Like we would go six hours to play one game, six hours back home.

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So honestly, like, I would like to say, you know, it's

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kind of nothing too new to me.

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Um, I've ma I've mainly just had a lot of fun going to all these new

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places with, with my brothers and, you know, just competing and, and

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enjoying the new states and, and places.

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And, uh,

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coach Finney talked a little bit about some adjustments you've made

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from the fall coming into the spring.

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Can you talk a little bit about those?

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Uh, yeah.

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I think for the most part, over the fall, um, me and Finney talked about it.

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I was just getting too big, trying to do too much and, and most of my bats.

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Um, and so I kind of just worked on like trusting what I got, trusting my

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swing, my eyes, everything like that, letting the ball travel and not trying

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to get too big and, you know, hit homers every at bat and just more, more.

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So put the ball in play I think has been a really big help for sure.

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That's one thing that's so impressive about you.

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'cause you are certainly a guy that can hit the ball off the

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wall, over the wall anytime.

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Mm-hmm.

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But we've seen a lot of at bats where you're just putting that

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ball in play the other way.

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I, I mean that, that's huge for a team to have the guy, you know,

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really the best hitter on the team.

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Frankly, let's be real at the moment and probably throughout the rest

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of the year to be able to do that.

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Appreciate.

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Yeah.

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I mean, so does that, is that a thing you're, you're constantly thinking of?

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Like, Hey, I gotta be this guy for the team?

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Um,

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I mean, not, not too much.

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I mean, I like to think sometimes, um, you know, I can kind of get the fellas

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rolling with a, with a hit here and there.

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Um, but, you know, I also trust all the, all the boys above and

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behind me to, to spark it as well.

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So I think it's, you know, just a mixture of, of both.

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I.

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Yeah, and you had like a, a really impressive bat that ended in a walk

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earlier season was that it was against Georgia State on that Sunday and mm-hmm.

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The pitcher had been filling up the zone all day, kind of getting a lot

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of soft contact and things like that.

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You go down an O2 hole, you battle back.

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I think you fouled off three or four pitches, end up drawing the walk.

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Do you feel like your eye for that ball has just gotten better as the

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season has gone on, or, or is that just kind of how you've always

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been able to operate in the box?

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I think I've always sort of had it, but I think sometimes it comes and

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goes a little bit with, like I said earlier, uh, trusting the eyes and just

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going up there and competing and not really worrying about everything else.

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I think when I do that well, I, I tend to see the ball really well,

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so I I love that you, you refer to the guys as brothers.

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I think that's awesome.

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Who have you gotten the closest with on the team, you think?

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Like, who are the guys?

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You're like, these are, you know, yeah, we're all brothers, but

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this is like my favorite brother.

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Uh, definitely my roommate, Scott Young.

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We just like, you'll always see us together, you know,

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we're just always hanging out.

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We're we're boys for sure.

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It's been, it's been great being able to be roommates with him.

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I've, I've had a great time.

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Yeah.

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He's, he's one of those guys that day, first day I met

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him, like this kid's awesome.

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I, I'm a huge fan, so yeah, that, yeah, he's a character for

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sure.

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What's been your favorite thing, um, non-baseball at ODU, you know, again,

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it's your whole other side of the country.

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What have you found, like, again, I mean, I'm sure it might be hard 'cause you

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spend so much time with all the guys, but what, what's the thing that you're

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like, okay, this is what I like out here.

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Um, I know you didn't really want me to, to reference the guys in this

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aspect, but like, just first getting here and, and the way that they kind

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of just treated me and embraced me.

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That was by far my favorite part.

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Like, just welcoming me right away was, was awesome.

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I I love that so much.

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That's good.

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I'll, I'll accept it.

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It's fine.

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Yeah.

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Is it, is it

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just you and Scotty in your apartment where you're at?

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It's, uh, me, Scotty and, and Toron, so, yeah.

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Oh yeah.

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I've got an awesome house.

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Oh, that's like, this is like the all personality house, for sure.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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We'll wait for like some, I'll put that one up against any other house.

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Geez.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I feel like there could be a standup comedy competition in

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that house at some point, so.

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Oh, no doubt.

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I think, uh, to Ron would definitely take the cake for that one.

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Uh, all right, well, we've asked all the guys who come on this

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year with, uh, you know, college football video game coming back.

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We've got some college stuff in the new MLB, the show.

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Mm-hmm.

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Uh, what would be your overall rating and like, what subcategory would you

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have the highest rating in as a hitter?

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Ooh.

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I mean, I gotta put myself at the 99, right?

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Yes.

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We got someone this year that did it.

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Of course.

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I just, just

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have to.

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Why not?

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Right?

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And then, um, definitely wanna boost the, the power stats up for sure.

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That's, that's gotta be the go-to.

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Yeah.

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If you're, if you're

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99 overall, I think you gotta be 99 power against left and right, right?

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Yeah.

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Yep.

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I, I love it.

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I, I, all the false humility these guys have, I love it.

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This is, this is what we need.

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It's like, no, I'm a 99.

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This is why.

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Yeah, why not, why not?

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It's a video game, let's go.

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Right?

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Yes sir.

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Yes.

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About, say, are, is there any video game competition going on in the house or is

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that, can't do that this time of year?

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I would like to say that we can't do that at this time of year, but

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there definitely is some, some video gaming going on for sure.

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Uh, with me and Scotty.

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Yeah.

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Uh, what's the high game right

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now?

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What are

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y'all playing the go-to?

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You guys probably have not heard of it.

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It's called Sea of Thieves.

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It's where you're a pirate and I. You sail the seven Cs.

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It's, it's awesome.

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We have a great time on that.

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Is it like a, like an open world game or is that like a story?

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How does that one work?

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Yeah, it's a, it's a open world game.

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You get to go around and, and, uh, collect treasure and all that sort of thing.

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It's, it's

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pretty cool.

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So you guys are like, you're like leaving the locker room, like, all right, we're

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gonna go search for some booty and everyone pick so, so else's, right.

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Alright.

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There's nothing wrong with, uh, playing some video games in

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season to blow off str stress.

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The iron computer.

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Yeah.

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You played for the Orange Coast Pirates.

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Right.

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Look at you.

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This is just in your, in your blood.

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Oh, yeah.

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Yeah.

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No doubt.

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Pirate for life for sure.

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Pirate Life's for me.

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Yeah.

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As long as it's not East Carolina.

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As long as it's not East

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Carolina.

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We're good on that, so, oh yeah.

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No,

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no, no.

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Not them.

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Yeah.

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So, uh, for you, I know you're, you're a junior, but I know that

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sometimes that classification is just really for the website.

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Mm-hmm.

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Uh, like what are your plans beyond this season, if you have any at all yet?

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Um, I'm just kind of playing it by ear, you know?

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I mean, I'm definitely, definitely coming back here, but if somehow,

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you know, get, get picked up, I'm definitely taking that chance for sure.

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But yeah, playing it by ear about to say, has that been like a

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dream and a goal for you?

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Oh, yeah.

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Yeah.

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I, I've been dreaming about being a professional baseball player

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since I was a little kid, so yeah.

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That's, that's definitely the, the end goal.

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Me

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too.

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But you actually have a chance to do it.

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We try.

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We're trying as I, I'm, I, I, I think the dream might be dead for me.

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I keep dreaming it, but I, every year, no, you never know.

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You never know.

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I think every year the draft comes around, I'm like, I'm lefty.

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I got, I got a fresh arm.

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There's no, no miles on this arm, and they don't, uh, yeah, some

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team could use that for sure.

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I'm telling you.

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Yeah,

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I mean, no doubt.

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I think there's a Monarch that's the oldest player in the four main

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pro sports now with Verlander.

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I think he's gonna be 43 before the playoffs.

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So yeah, there's still hope for us.

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Cb,

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hope he's still younger than me.

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That's the funny part.

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Alright, so there's hope for me, but No, I,

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there

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you go.

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But hey, but z, if you don't get picked up this year, at least you'll

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have the opportunity to come play in a, basically a brand new ballpark

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next season with real home games.

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Real home games.

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Oh yeah.

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That's super exciting.

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For sure.

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Well, Zach, what, what have we not asked you that you want to tell Monarch fans or

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anyone else who might, might be listening?

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Um

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hmm.

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I'm not really sure about that one.

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Um, alright.

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Yeah.

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I'm just a, I'm just a guy that, that loves playing ball

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and, and going out there and competing with the boys every day.

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Nothing wrong with that.

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Yeah.

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That's about it.

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Nothing wrong with that.

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That's awesome.

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No,

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this is great because I, I really, I haven't talked to you a ton as I've

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out there because you always look like you're like so serious and ready

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to play that I don't wanna bug you.

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Like, I'm gonna be honest.

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And maybe that's just 'cause you're just like in the mode.

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You're like, you're loving it.

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You're probably having a blast in your head.

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Oh

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yeah.

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But you just have this like dead serious face the whole time.

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So I'm like, I'm, I'm like, I gotta say what's up and kind

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of try to stay outta your way.

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Yeah.

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No, you can come say what's up to me whenever I'll, I'll put the

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smile on my face when you say, hey, to me it's all, it's all good.

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I'm locked in, but, but you can always come say, what's up?

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We love it.

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Good man.

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Yeah.

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I, I've, I've thoroughly enjoyed it as a, as a, uh, as a, a

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bigger size lefty, lefty myself.

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I'm, I'm a, I'm a big fan.

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I'm always, I'm always rooting for the guys that I'm like, yeah, that, that was

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kind of my body type when I was playing.

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I'm, I'm into it.

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That's great.

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I love to hear that.

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All right.

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Well, awesome, Zach.

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We appreciate you taking some time outta your day to come chat with us.

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I know you've got a, a what, 1245 departure to Charlottesville and then

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a, a big weekend against Troy coming up, but really appreciate the time.

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It was great to meet you.

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Great to meet you guys too.

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Great to, to be on here.

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Thank you guys a lot.

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Yeah, man.

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Look for gonna be a good week before you get to play at Harbor

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Park and at, uh, dish there at UVA.

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That's a couple more nice stadiums for the, the belt there.

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Oh yeah.

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I'm, I'm excited.

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I'm excited to check it

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out.

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All right, man.

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Well, good luck.

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Great talking to you, Zach.

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Thank you.

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Great talking to you guys.

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Appreciate it bud.

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Good kid.

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Yeah, yeah.

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No, I serious.

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I, I've, I've like barely, that's the most, that's, that's like 50 times as much

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as I've talked to him all since the fall.

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'cause like he always looks so serious and locked in that I'm like,

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I don't wanna mess with this guy.

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Yeah.

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He even looked locked in like after the games against Georgia

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State and all that, so, yeah.

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Yeah.

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I think until that series is over, man, he is dialed in and it, it's showing up.

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Like you said, he was, you know, the best hitter on the team right now,

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and statistically you can't argue with it hitting, uh, was it, well,

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speaking of him being the best hitter on the team.

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Oh,

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yes.

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Oh, congratulations.

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Oh, look at that.

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What a, what a segue.

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Look at us.

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Yes, he is.

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Um, he and I, of course don't have it pulled up as we do it.

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He had another, I know we had three hits in that final game,

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and for the week, he had, oh crap.

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This is just, uh, I think I have,

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I think it was five, five for 15.

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He was five for

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15, two doubles, three rbis, three walks, and a hit by pitch.

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So another great week.

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He, he really, I think he, he, you arguably could have been the

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player of the week last week.

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Um, I know he won at least one other time this year.

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He is, he's, he's been a very consistent hitter for us.

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He's, he's hitting what, about three 50 for us right now.

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Yeah.

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Three 50, uh, 9 91 OPS.

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I mean, he's lead the team in, in, uh, doubles.

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I think he's, Zach's been doing it.

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And, uh, we talked about Frank Wright earlier.

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I mean, it was, you know, again, wasn't a ton of outstanding pitches.

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Um, Ethan Hubble had a great.

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Outing in the, uh, the first game or in the, in the, the, yeah, the

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first game on Saturday, but he didn't pitch as well on, uh, Tuesday.

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So that kind of, to me, I, I, that's why we, we picked Frankie.

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I think he, you know, again, looking like a guy who was kind of becoming

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another, uh, reliable arm at a bullpen, which what really need.

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Yeah.

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And I think, I think that's what they wanted from Frankie to begin with.

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He's a veteran guy who, you know, transferred in.

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Uh, and I think he's just kind of getting up to speed now and they've, they're

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gonna find a role for him somewhere.

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But if he continues this trend of improving the way he's looked on the

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mound, uh, that's just such a weapon for us to be able to roll out on

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either Friday or Saturday, whenever, uh, and then, and potentially could

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even start some midweek games for us.

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But I think at this point, Finney was kind of alluding to it.

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Yeah, we gotta save everything we can in the tank for these Sunbelt series.

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'cause that's really what's gonna make or break us as we go down the stretch.

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Yeah, we like winning on Tuesdays.

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I mean, we need to get one.

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We have, we have not won, uh, midweek yet this year.

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Uh, but you're, that's, that's the truth.

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Like I said, 21 more Sunbelt games.

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Uh, let's go win those.

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Yeah.

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If we could start with UVA and winning a midweek, that'd be great.

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But there's also a couple VCU and Richmond and I know we wanna get those wins.

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And then of course, I think everyone's got the JMU series up in Harrisonburg

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later this year circled, uh, which they're having kind of a similar season to us.

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They haven't, they don't have nearly the strength of schedule,

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but they're right there with us at four and five in the Sunbelt.

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They're nine and 19 overall.

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Uh, they just got swept up this past weekend, uh, losing four straight, but

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I mean, Sunbelt's wide open Southern Miss seven and two, they dropped the

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one to South Alabama this weekend.

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You got Troy Coastal, Louisiana at six and three.

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You got three more teams at five and four.

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You got four teams at four and five.

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Like, it's still very much wide open and I. You get hot for a couple

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weekends and you can find yourself in the top three of this conference.

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I like that because it is just a meat grinder, as we

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always say, to get through it.

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Yeah, I mean, we've, we, I think we said this all last season.

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We we're gonna say this all this season.

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I'm sure that at any point you can start doing the things and have the

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things start falling going, and your fortunes can turn around entirely.

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Uh, this is, yeah.

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Well, this is a talented team.

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There's a lot of talent in this team.

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The, the question is, can they make it all happen at the same time?

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A little bit of improvement here and there, but it'll be

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a tough test against Troy.

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I mean, they're ranked for a reason.

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They play good ball.

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We know that we're gonna see our good friend Steven Meier, who's

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having a hell of a year for Troy

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Hell of a year.

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What was he, 360?

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Where is that at?

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Yeah.

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Uh, we're, oh yeah, 360, 2 10 doubles.

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Uh, triple five homers, 20 rbis.

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He is got 16 steels, uh, 40 runs.

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I mean, he, he is, uh, doing it all, which, you know, is not surprising

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as long when he is healthy.

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We, we've known this when he is healthy, he's a beast.

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Um, I thought it was funny when we played the opening, uh, montage there

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and they had the picture of Fineman.

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Uh, 'cause Ryan Fineman is the court a coach of Troy now, so we get to see him.

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So it's nice to see a couple of guys we know.

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Um, and with a good opponent.

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Yep.

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Should be a, a good contest that can't recommend enough just getting to Harvard

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par for one of these games this weekend.

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You don't have to go to two or three if you want to, that's fantastic.

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But just get out there to one.

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Go support these guys.

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You're gonna see some good pitching, good matchup between two really

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good baseball programs right now.

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Uh, I am excited.

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I'll go talk to Steven for a little bit.

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I won't boo him.

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He went to Troy.

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So I can't, no, I'm not gonna boo him.

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He's great.

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No, he's like,

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I mean, he's, he's a guy we, we got, I don't like to boo any

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of the other team guys unless they do something out of pocket.

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'cause like in general, they're just college kids.

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I mean, I've seen enough guys that, with other teams that ended up playing for

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ODU, it's, there's no reason to do it.

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Uh, some people love it.

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That's not me.

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Yeah, no, I'd just rather just cheer for our guys.

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But

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yeah,

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I won't necessarily be cheering for him to do Well unless, you know.

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No.

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If the game's outta reach, you know, he can do, he can do well.

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Oh, if he goes over for the weekend, I won't be sad about it.

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You know, he can get all his hits in another week.

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He is hitting 360 2.

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He can stand to go O for 12, he'll be fine.

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Yeah.

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But if I could not see him do that amazing bat flip he had against Coastal Carolina.

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Yeah.

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If you haven't seen it, you need to go track that down.

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'cause it got coastal worked up to say the least.

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Uh, but we all, we, we know that Steve Meier, he hit some

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clutch home runs for us, so

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he's great.

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Yeah.

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Look, looking forward to seeing him.

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Looking forward to seeing him play again.

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Um, hope we sweep him.

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Yes, that's the perfect way.

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We'll.

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Well, I think that'll do it for us today.

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I'll appreciate all of you are listening in.

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Definitely tell your friends if they're not listening.

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Uh, I will see you at Harbor Park Friday, Saturday.

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Yes.

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Go find

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Gary and ask him a lot of questions and talk to him about

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all your thoughts and opinions.

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I'll be busy taking pictures.

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I'll get one of those deli like take a number tickets and Yes.

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And get to everybody on the course of the weekend.

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If

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you, if you find me.

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Uh, I'll, I'll be sure to point out wherever he is for you.

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I appreciate your support with that cb I'm gonna let them know

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where to find all your pictures.

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Uh,

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this, this thing came down, the one side came down about what?

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39 minutes in the other side came down about when?

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When Zach joined.

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Oh, I actually missed the other side, but the first side fell down 38 56 if

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you're keeping track at home, I think

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right about when Zach.

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So it's, it, I literally put it up just for this, so we gotta get a more,

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a better solution, but that's okay.

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All right.

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So I appreciate it.

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I'm gonna go try to watch, uh, Jackson, the Conwell over at Green Briar,

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Christian, and uh, see some of our future.

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We love it.

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Awesome.

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We'll see you all this weekend.

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Go Monarchs.

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Go Monarchs.

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