Episode 12

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8th Apr 2025

S2E12 - Troy Recap w/ Efrain Morales

Efrain Morales is our player guest this week after a four hit game on Sunday. CB, Gary and Coach Finny chat through the Troy series and look ahead to Norfolk State and Georgia Southern. We've also got a new way for you to track Monarchs playing pro ball later in the episode.

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Hello Monarch fans.

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Like we,

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we got the, the shot of Brock Gallardi there, uh, enjoying

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a, a, a a, a cold beverage and some ODU fandom at Arbor Park.

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And we saw some that this weekend.

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That was nice.

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Saw Brock and then a Tell me about night out there this weekend.

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Sorry.

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Oh, yeah.

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Now, now we can intro.

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Hello?

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Hello.

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Monarch fans.

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I, you always do.

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Me.

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I should.

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Welcome to another episode of Hudson Homers.

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Uh, I'm CB and I'm here with Gary.

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Gary, how are you doing?

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You know what I'm doing Great.

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I have one more day at work before vacation.

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I got to go see some college baseball in person.

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Things are, things are, uh, okay.

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I mean, you know, aside from some things, but other things

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are, are doing great, man.

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How are you?

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The, the okay things are okay and the not okay.

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Things we're, we're gonna worry about the Okay.

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Things.

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We'll worry about those later.

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Yes.

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I'm great man.

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Yeah, we got so some college baseball like I saw, I mean, we could have

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fielded a whole team full of law.

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Our alumni that are out there watching this weekend, that was fun to see.

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Um, and then, you know, we'll talk about the other stuff, but then

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tomorrow get more college baseball right here in Norfolk against

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Norfolk State, so That's great.

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Got the afternoon off so I can go out and watch it.

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Yeah, we actually had, we actually had baseball weather this weekend too.

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Almost a little hot man.

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At some points I am sunburn.

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If it wasn't for the, the breeze, it'd have been awful out there.

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Uh, I was at the lacrosse game Saturday before going to the

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baseball and on that turf it was hot.

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Yeah.

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Uh, I was over with Mike and Aaron at SB Ballard watching football practice.

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And the same thing, I had my back to the sun and I not put on sunblock

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yet, so the back of my neck is.

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Is roasted and ready, uh, to be in some more sun later this week.

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I've got the, the nice strips on top of my knees, like the, like, yeah, yeah.

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I got those.

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Those are, those are solid right now.

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Yes.

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Yeah.

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And I had a haircut earlier this week, so, you know, the, the nice areas to get

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protected got, got toasted up pretty good.

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Uh, but yeah, but it was good to see some baseball, uh, not the week

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we wanted in terms of, of record.

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We lose the series to Troy, but we do salvage Sunday, uh, lost earlier in

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the week up in Charlottesville to UVA.

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Uh, so the, the win totals did not kick up this week, but I

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feel like we're a broken record.

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It was good to at least win one in the series and keep things alive for us.

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Yeah.

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You know, and it, it's funny how, again, your whole attitude

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about the team changes.

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Like, I sitting here and again, probably just 'cause I, I

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like sitting and doing this.

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This is a, a fun part of my week.

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Uh, so you feel good anyway, but yeah, they, and they went on

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Sunday, so you could like, oh yeah.

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And they, and they look great doing it, um, had, you know,

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one rough ending pitching.

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But that's the team that you're like, man, why aren't they

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doing this every single game?

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You know, I'm sitting there during the game, I'm like, you

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know, where is this all the time?

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Yeah.

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And Friday was a tough one to watch.

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Yeah.

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Uh, losing seven, nothing.

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Just watching the struggles at the plate, just not, not having good at

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bats and, and credit to Troy's pitching.

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They were throwing the ball very well.

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Uh, but I, I don't think that a four hitter was what

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I had in mind on that Friday.

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Uh, especially when you see the guys at about the sixth inning on Saturday.

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Suddenly turn it on and they look like the lineup.

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We've expected it's a little, little too little, too late on Saturday,

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but the bat stayed alive Sunday.

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We were able to get runs early, get ahead and go and win that ball game.

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Some good pitching down the stretch there from Bailey Mattel to seal that one up.

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Yeah, Bailey is man, and, and that's, uh, what I liked about that is, you know,

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we've seen him, like in Southern Miss, he came in back to back days, right?

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And he got a, you know, a few outs.

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Um, I think he had like two thirds of inning on the Saturday game and like

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inning a third for the save on the Sunday.

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Uh, and then now we see him here getting a save with two and a third innings.

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You know, obviously I think they really were hoping Frankie Wright

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would get him into the eighth inning and then, you know, if it's with one

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out or, or if it just need two innings outta Bailey, then you could do it.

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But they, I, I guarantee they did not intend to bring Bailey

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out in the seventh inning.

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Uh, but knowing he can do it, you know, knowing he's got that ability, he can

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stretch it out and he, he can dominate.

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Um, he's, he's one of those guys that, you know, when you sit by the other

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team's dugouts, you hear him, they're just like, this guy's disgusting.

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Uh, so yeah, Bailey is always, and, and, and Blake with another, you

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know, just a, just a stud senior.

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I mean, he's just what you want of a senior.

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The guy brings the attitude and the energy every single time and, and he

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brings the, the pitching to match.

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I

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ran into Blake on Saturday morning over at the Chick-fil-A at the village

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as I was trying to figure out how to go through that ordering system.

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Talk to him for a few minutes.

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Uh, yeah, great.

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Doubting from him.

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C yeah, he came in clutch from my chicken minis, that's for sure.

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Uh, but another, along the same line with Bailey being able to go two and a

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third to close out that game on Sunday.

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The reason he was able to do that was actually because of Kellen being able to

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go two scoreless innings the day before on Saturday, and we didn't have to go

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to Bailey on that on that Saturday game.

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Uh, I thought Kellen looked great, he looked great.

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Coming back out for a second inning of work on Saturday, kept us in that game.

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It was a one run game down, down to the final outs there.

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Uh, just didn't have enough offense early in that game

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to, to stay at.

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And while we're breaking up relievers, hunter Baynes had a

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great outing on, uh, on Friday.

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Um, and, and honestly, I, you know, I know they took him out after an out in the, um.

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And what was it, the seventh inning?

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I'll be honest, I'm not real sure why.

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I'd be curious to ask if there was a reason, if, you know, 'cause it looked

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like he was kind of rolling right then.

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I mean, obviously we were, you know, we were down pretty big.

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It really didn't have any effect on the game 'cause it didn't hit no matter what.

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Um, but, and then Marco, he had, he had a little bit of trouble, but he

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got outta the inning with no runs.

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But, so Hunter Baynes had another great one.

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So that, that was really fun to see.

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Yes.

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Well, you've got a question and I'm gonna bring on the man

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with the answers, coach Finwood

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but before you answer

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that Coach, how's it going?

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Hey.

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Hey, I got to hear that question too.

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That was awesome.

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Oh, did you?

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Okay.

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I like that.

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Yeah.

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CB always has the best questions.

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Yeah.

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Real.

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So I don't forget, in regards to Baynes, he's, he's been throwing

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the ball a lot better for us.

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And, um, he was a little tender.

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Mike said nothing bad.

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He, he wanted to go back out there.

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And you know, I, at that point, you know, we're down.

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Pretty good.

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And I said, I didn't really, we, we didn't really find it out and

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I, I didn't find it out anywhere.

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I wouldn't have sent him back out there at all.

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Um, but he said no, he wanted to go try it.

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And I said, all right, well let's just get somebody going.

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Let's get LaVar going.

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And he got that.

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He threw, I don't know if he threw one pitch or whatever it was, and he

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got an album Better safe than sorry.

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'cause he's, he's trending in the right direction.

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That's gonna be, you know, helpful down the, down the stretch.

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And like you said, we were, you know, we weren't hitting that night

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and we, we didn't play with the hoop Friday night, uh, on top of that.

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So, um, but it is nice to see him getting.

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In those games, getting more experience talking about Hunter,

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um, and throwing the ball.

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Well that's, you know, two or three outings in a row that

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he's been pretty good for.

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So hopefully down the stretch he could, you know, we just been behind on Fridays.

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Mm-hmm.

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So much.

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Um, and, but he's a guy that you can bring in right as he develops and that's okay.

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Um, I'd like to see him come into there, you know, come in in the fifth or sixth

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inning when we're up and see what we got.

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Yeah.

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So that's the next step.

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Well, I, I appreciate that answer because you know that, and that's the thing that

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I, I try to tell people when they're sitting there in the stands and they

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ask me so later, it's like, you know, you don't really know what's going on.

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Like I, my assumption was like, okay, there's something going on.

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There's some kind of plan.

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There's some reason they didn't just take 'em out 'cause their idiots

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that dunno what they're doing.

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Like that's not what's happening.

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That's right.

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That's true.

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And yeah, we're always

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gonna.

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Trend towards guy's health.

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I mean, it's just not, you know, none of this is worth getting a kid hurt.

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And he, he wasn't hurting.

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He had just, he had a couple, you know, and he was throwing the

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ball well, but he hasn't thrown a ton of pitches in a row yet.

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No.

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And so we're trying to build that up a little bit.

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And, um, I don't know what his pitch count, you know,

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was that day, but it might.

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42. It might have been.

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Yeah, 42 in the forties is about as long as he's, he's gone, so.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Well, speaking of knowing what you're doing, we are gonna, gonna

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put you on the spot here and wish you a congratulations on 400 career

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coaching wins at Old Dominion.

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So, congratulations

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coach.

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Thank you guys.

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I appreciate that.

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And, uh.

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It's, um, I did not, not know that until I heard Jack Ankerson say

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it when we were shaking hands.

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Yeah.

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I don't tend to pay that much attention to those things, but it, it, it's

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humbling and a nice honor to be mentioned.

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You know, like on the graphic you, you guys put up, um, in

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the, in the same sentences.

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There's been some great co bud Metheny to finish that thought.

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And there's been so, so many great baseball coaches at Old Dominion and,

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um, you know, just to be thought of, um, I'm sure there's plenty of people that

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don't think I'm being that way, but for those that do, uh, you know, to be thought

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of in those same, um, conversations, uh, mark Newman's, pat McMahons, Tony

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Guzzo, bud Metheny's, um, guys that, you know, I grew up learning the game from.

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And so, uh, that's, that's a nice, nice honor to, you know,

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get to 400 here and, um, you know, hopefully keep on, keep on rolling.

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Absolutely only, only 23 behind Bud too.

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So you're uh,

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yeah.

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Hopeful on

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24 game winning streak.

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That's, Hey, that's what I've been saying.

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I said we can make it happen.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I mean, it's gotta be when once you start getting close to the guy whose name is on

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the stadium, that's, that's pretty good.

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Things are, good things are happening.

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Yeah.

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Well it's, um, like I said, you know, numbers are all, um, records

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are gonna get broken, um, sooner or later, and numbers are there to create

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interest and it's a lot of wins.

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It means you were around for good enough time and people thought you did a good

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enough job to keep you around there.

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So, uh, I guess that's the good, good part of it.

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Now let's get back to talking about the games.

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There we go.

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Yes.

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Well, we, we hadn't talked too much about, uh, the game in Charlottesville this week.

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I dunno if there's anything you want to touch on there.

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I know you ran through some, some bullpen arms there too, and

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maybe saw some improvement from a couple guys in that department.

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Well, gosh, it seems like four, four months ago now.

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It does, it does, it

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does.

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Last

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Tuesday, you know, a four hour game again, another long Tuesday game.

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We just walk too many guys and give up too many free bases in those midweek games.

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And I, I told the guys, you know, these midweek games are supposed to be for

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some of you guys, like trying out to throw more on the weekends, like you,

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and you're not doing it like you, you're not giving us anything to, to, to go on.

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Like these are, these are opportunities for you guys to earn,

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you know, innings on the weekends.

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And right now all we do is walk a bunch of guys and get behind and

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we actually swung the bats fine.

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I mean, they only, I think they all hit us nine to eight and we lost by six.

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So, uh, that's disappointing.

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Um.

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But you know, it's, we need some guys to throw a little bit

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better, obviously, in there.

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And, um, hopefully tomorrow, you know, a couple guys will get a

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chance, uh, and, and, and perform better against Norfolk State.

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I, I'm, I'm pretty, you know, I think overall our top.

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10, eight to 10 guys are throwing the ball pretty well right now.

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Overall, um, competitive with whoever we're playing and it's the guys down

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the line after that that aren't.

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And so, you know, it's real simple guys.

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Like if you're not gonna throw the ball better, you're gonna stop getting chances.

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That's how it works.

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And we're gonna have to throw some of these other guys more.

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And guys like Jayce Park are gonna have to go out there on Tuesday

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and you know, you're gonna give us three or four innings, man.

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And if you want to give up one or none, or if you want to

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give up 10, you figure it out.

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Um, and, uh, we're gonna need to stop rescuing him.

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He is gotta grow up and it is time, you know, we got four or five

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more midweek games and that's it.

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And he needs to, he needs to start on his keep.

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He is, he is.

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He was very good in the fall.

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He cut his finger open in January that put him behind.

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He just hasn't been himself a, been a shell of the pitcher

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he was for us in the fall.

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And that's, that's been disappointing.

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'cause we, we expected a lot outta him and he, he still can do it.

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He just has it yet, you know, so his time, you never know when the

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worm can turn and, and hopefully it'll start to turn off for him.

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Yeah.

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I love Jason.

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Like I said, he, I, every time I think he pitched every single time

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I was out there in the fall and it was like, man, this kid's awesome.

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And we've seen some flashes of it.

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So, so you're right.

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I, and I, I, you know, frankly, I know it doesn't always feel good for

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them when you leave him out there and say, Hey, it's your inning.

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I don't care.

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I mean, he runs, you give up.

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But I think sometimes that helps the guy if you get the guy with

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the right mentality, that's a great learning experience.

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Yeah.

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I think sometimes we, we, you know, and, and a lot of years for us anyway,

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you're in the RPI conversations where you gotta try to win those

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midweek games and we're, we're not gonna be in that boat this year, so.

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We need to, we need to lean towards development.

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And I think a guy like Kim, a guy like Will Orberson, um, I mean they're the only

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two freshmen left, you know, that freshman class, uh, through injuries and, and crazy

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things has just basically all redshirted.

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Um, but they, uh, they need to go out there and just do it.

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Like you said, this is your inning, this is your two innings,

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this is your three innings.

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You go figure it out.

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If you give up a few, then you know, if you give up two, try not to give up three.

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Um, and learn from it and grow.

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And I think that's where we need to be at with those guys

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at this point in the season.

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Yeah.

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Don't want them looking to the bullpen to see all who's getting

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up to come get me outta this.

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Yeah, I think you had a pretty good example of that on Saturday with Kellen.

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Uh, you know, he came back in for a second inning of work.

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I kept looking out in the bullpen and like, this is Kellen's inning.

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We're, we're not going anywhere else.

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Kellen's got it.

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And he stepped up and did a great job and lets you say Bailey for Sunday.

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And uh, it's going close out the win against Troy.

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Yeah, yeah.

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Hunter and him both really, you know?

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Mm-hmm.

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Um, it, it's a, people don't think about the, like CBU were saying.

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I, it's, and it's hard to, as a fan, like a series is you're trying to

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win the series and if you can't win the series, you're trying to win

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a game in the series and mm-hmm.

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You know, so it becomes the next best thing.

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On Friday, you're trying to win all three.

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You get down early on Friday, alright, you have to start

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thinking about the next two games.

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And so who can I throw in this?

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That might give us a chance, but you know, we're down, we're down one there.

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We're down two and then we scratch back to make it one.

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And we just said, we have to save two guys in the pen for tomorrow.

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Um, and let's, let's kellen's already thrown, so he is gotta go back in.

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He is gotta throw another one.

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And whether we give up none or one or five, five, it's, it's, it's the, the

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dilemma of being down as opposed to up and not having a ton of depth down there.

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Um, yeah, I was just

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gonna say, and that's the problem of those guys that you're giving chances

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to on Tuesday, not seizing their opportunities because then you are,

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you're like, well, I only got two guy, I only have two guys instead of

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like three, four guys I can pick from.

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Yeah,

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you're, you're limited.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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We're limited, uh, somewhat, you know, right now on the weekends

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with guys that you really.

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Trust, trust.

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I mean, baes has turned into one of those guys, uh, Kellen Bailey and, and Frank

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is, uh, you know, so, you know, it's, it's kind of those guys minus the starters.

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And so we need to get good starts, obviously.

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And then you gotta pick your spots, um, for those guys.

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And, and a couple of 'em have shown the ability to throw more than once.

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Um, you don't wanna go that well too often, but, you know, it's just like

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Marco, Marco threw a really good inning, uh, in, at, at Virginia, um, clean.

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But then you bring 'em in with one out and nobody on, and next thing

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you know, there's bases loaded and it's just like, come on man.

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Like, and two of them were freebies, you know, it's like one hit.

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He just wanted to show you.

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And if he can just stay away from the freebies, his stuff is good enough

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to be successful at this level.

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He hasn't done it yet.

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There's plenty of guys that end up as college juniors throwing the ball real

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well that, uh, were Marco Lari, you know, and so we just got, he's a great kid.

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He's got to learn how to compete better and, and trust his stuff

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better and throw it in there, man.

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If they hit it, then they hit it, we'll figure the rest out.

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But when you walk guys and hit guys and you're just all over the

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place, that's, it's hard to, you know, manage the game that way.

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It's hard to call that game that way for pitching coach.

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Um, it's hard for guys to play behind you and that's been

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his, his snake bite, right?

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Like, it's just the free basis.

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So, and

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may, maybe this is just a dumb fan theory, but I, I feel like the

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pitcher's pitched differently when the offense is putting up some runs,

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whether you're in the lead or not.

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Just kind of having that thought of.

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If I give a run up here because I am gonna throw fastballs in the zone,

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I feel like my, my lineup behind me can, can go get that run back.

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I don't Yeah.

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Think that was necessarily true Friday for sure.

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No, you're a hundred percent right.

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Um, and that's the, you know, the issue when you're not hitting, hitting and

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pitching certainly compliment each other, just like pitching and defense.

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Do you know, uh, it's a lot easier to throw when you're,

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when you're up five to one.

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Um, than when you're down five to one, uh, you feel like you gotta

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be perfect, you know, when you're down and we've been down a lot.

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Um, and so that puts a lot of pressure on those pitchers.

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Um, it was nice to get the lead for Blake on, on on Sunday.

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We kind of did that last, the following Sunday.

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And, you know, Blake's just been lights out for us on Sundays, man.

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I mean, you know, he, he's been so consistently good, even when he

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doesn't have his best stuff, he is just battled his tail off and kept

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us in the game and given us a chance.

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Um, and we've won, you know, a, a bunch of his starts on, on Sundays, you know, and,

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and since league play started, certainly.

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So,

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yeah.

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And it's, you know, kind of on that offensive side, it seemed like the

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guys didn't really wake up until about that sixth inning on Saturday.

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And then when they did, I mean, you have.

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Pretty good series after that, kind of, once the bats get going,

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you get right back into the game.

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Saturday they fought down to the final out.

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I think you, uh, I won't make you say it, say it, but the, uh, umpire was, uh,

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a little all over the place on Saturday.

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Yeah.

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Trying to figure that out.

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I

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don't think any, any of the three guys were any good.

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Uh, I was just gonna say the same thing.

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CB, I'm not gonna say it, but you said it.

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Uh, that was, that was as inconsistent.

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Uh, yeah.

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Three days as I can remember, man.

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And, um, you're right.

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They were all over.

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When you got both dugouts yelling at you, then, you know, it's just not a good day.

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That's, that's what I said at some point yesterday.

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Yeah.

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That's the way it was.

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And you know, we, we just didn't play, you know, we were awful Friday,

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let's just call it what it is.

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And we told the guys, you know, we challenged them like, come on.

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And then Saturday we played a good ball game.

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We got beat, their starter Saturday was fantastic.

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On ball.

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Mm-hmm.

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Yes.

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I mean, it was low to mid nineties with a real breaking ball.

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We could not figure him out until he just got tired and, and they

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probably, you know, left him out there maybe anything too long.

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But that can happen.

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Right?

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And, and then the kid they brought in deal was up to 98.

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Mm-hmm.

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Um, and so we, we had, you know, we had a couple guys that were gonna

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be tough for anybody to deal with.

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We had to face Saturday, so that had something to do with, with why we

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didn't score more than three runs.

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Um, and Sunday we came out and swing of bats and had some big hits.

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Kyle Edwards, you know, hits two home runs and, uh, we needed 'em.

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And er, Morales goes four for four.

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I thought F gave gave us great energy behind the plate.

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You know, he's gonna be a really catcher, he's a talker back there.

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He's just, yeah, he's a winner.

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That's what he is.

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Yeah, he's a winner.

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He is competitive.

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He is a tough little.

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SOBI love that kid.

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And, um, he is just gotta keep working on the arm, which he will, you know,

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he is just had some arm issues.

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Nothing major, but.

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Uh, it just kind of gets underwater on him sometimes.

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And, um, but he caught good, he blocks good.

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He just gives you tremendous, you know, desire back there.

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And I think it bleeds into everything we do.

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And Blake, I, I mean, I think it helps Blake.

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I mean, not that Blake hadn't been throwing good to whoever's showing

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too, but he, he's, you know, he seems to work, work well with him as well.

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He kind of matches Blake's energy.

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'cause Blake's a very high energy.

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Yes.

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He's, I mean, he's a talker even when he's pitching.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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That's a good point.

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I think, I think that's a good way to put it.

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And, you know, um,

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as we get farther down the road, hopefully we can catch stuff a little bit more.

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He is just not quite ready for it yet arm wise.

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So, um, but we're moving in that direction.

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I think he's gonna be our, you know, our future catcher.

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So, um, and then, and then, you know, we had some big hits.

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Scott thought, Scotty Young.

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Obviously his first at bat to double down the line, you know, gets us going.

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Uh, uh, he had a, he had a really good day in game three, uh, last week

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at, at Appalachian State, and should have had a home run last night too.

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I mean, he murdered that ball, dead end 30 mile an hour wind.

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And having said that, my gosh, man, it's just like you start to feel

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like you snake bit a little bit, you know, Friday we probably hit

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three, uh, tj, Luke, you know, maybe three home runs that didn't go.

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And, and TJ had another one Saturday.

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Um, and then, you know, uh, I mean, Kyle got his, uh, hit his to the right b part

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of the ballpark, fortunately, but Scotty, that's as hard as you can hit a ball, man.

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And it didn't go out.

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So, uh, it's too bad.

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Were they telling you,

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um, it looked like there were a few.

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Hit the center where Scotty like, it seemed like, I think the wind

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kind of carried him away from him.

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'cause I noticed, like when I was sitting they did.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, they did.

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We should had him more and left center, I think.

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Um mm-hmm.

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That's on us.

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I, I think we should have played the wind a little bit more, um, than we did.

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'cause, you know, a couple of those balls I think he'd had a better

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chance of if he was just over, you know, four or five more steps.

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And, um, so that's on us.

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But yeah, he, he had a little bit of trouble reading some of those,

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but man, it wasn't an easy day.

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I mean, not easy.

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No.

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Every ball in the air was gonna be an adventure.

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And I thought we did a pretty good job on a bunch of popups, man.

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The one guy, I don't remember who hit it, but I thought it was going

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to Elite and it ended up, Kyle had to catch it in front of the third base.

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Yeah.

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And I was like, wow.

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That's, you know, 50 feet.

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That ball moved.

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Yeah.

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There was an, there was another, another one on.

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Blake and Zach ran into each other on the one, fortunately we call it.

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Yeah.

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Oh, hold on.

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I think we got that here.

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There you go.

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There it is.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, yeah.

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That's, that's, that's a good shot right there.

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Yeah.

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And, and fortunately Blake.

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Yeah.

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And Blake is Blake, he is just, he's sitting there laughing

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on the ground afterwards.

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You know, he's just got that great attitude no matter what,

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you know?

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Yeah, yeah.

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And he's probably our best fielding pitcher.

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Yeah.

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Um, so, you know, you feel good about him catching a popup, which not all

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left-handed pitchers, if that the case.

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Yeah,

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it, it was definitely an adventure.

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Looked like some points in the outfield.

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There was a line drive screamer hit to dead center on Saturday.

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I watched it go over the second base bag and then it curled into left.

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And I think TJ took like three steps to his left and caught it in left field.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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And you can see just that jet stream cutting across right center

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towards that left field foul pole.

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Yeah.

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Pushing everything that way.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I really think the stadium was kind of blocking and then once it got

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past that and like, you know, mid outfield, it was just pushing hard.

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Yeah,

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yeah.

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Took

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off.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Well, I mean, it was great weather temperature wise and yeah.

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Um, it was nice to play some baseball and short sleeves and sweat a little bit.

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That was fun.

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And you know, um, uh, you know, we'll be back tomorrow in the, in

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the mid fifties and cold, windy.

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Gotta love it.

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Close it in.

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We're heading down the Georgia, it's gonna be in the seventies all weekend,

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so, uh, maybe spring is finally here.

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We got pollen

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everywhere again, so, oh, yeah,

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yeah, yeah, yeah.

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I'm glad to see

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the, glad to see the rain wash and some of that pollen away.

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Uh, but I, I want to go back a little bit on the umpire discussion here.

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'cause we actually have two voicemails today and one of 'em is

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about, and a very interesting play that occurred over the weekend.

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But, uh, it's from Aaron who was sitting with me most of the game,

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and he had this question for you.

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What's up fellas?

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This is Aaron here.

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First and foremost, congrats.

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Vinny.

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400 wins at ODU.

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What an awesome accomplishment.

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Uh, I've got a question for coach.

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On Friday night, there was a bang, bang play at first where from the

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stance, it looked like the ball bounced off the first baseman's glove.

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The umpire called the runner out, and many of us in the stands were really confused.

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Um, after a few moments of us,

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so to to, to paraphrase and thank you Aaron.

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Uh, 'cause I have this question too.

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The, the play at first base on Friday, uh, where the first baseman for Troy

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caught the ball and it looked like the ball pops out immediately and he's

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called out and we're all confused.

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And I guess it turned out they had a ball in his pocket.

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No, no, that, that's great.

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No, uh, it's, that's like the, uh, you know, the, the circle game where

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you go around and you start saying one thing and then by the time you

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get back to the end of the circle, it's something completely different.

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So I thought it was a ball too.

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And I went, went out.

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Was was, now I saw balls laying on the ground, like what's going on?

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Yeah.

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He said, was it a guard, his finger

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guy,

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the guy has a thumb guard.

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Yeah.

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That he keeps, 'cause he, he busted his hand up on his glove hand.

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And it, it's at a point where, you know, where your gloves open on your wrist.

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Mm-hmm.

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And sometimes the ball hits and it flies.

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And from a distance, it looks like, 'cause it happened again yesterday.

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Yeah, it did.

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I dunno if you guys saw that.

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And I, I went, there it is again.

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Then I saw him go pick it up.

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Uh, and so that, that's what, that's what went flying off.

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It wasn't his, it wasn't a ball.

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Okay.

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That's the, i I did see

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it, uh, yesterday.

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I was, I was on that side when it happened and it was his, it was his finger guard.

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'cause he had his finger out, I'm assuming.

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Yeah.

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And so it was like outside the glove and it just shot right off.

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That's what it was.

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And that was the same thing the, the other time.

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'cause I, I asked the same question.

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I was like, yeah, it looked crazy.

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You know, uh, how's, how's, how's he out?

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He's gotta catch the ball because that wasn't the ball as his finger guard.

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Okay.

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Alright.

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That

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we had the exact same call, though, two different days that

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they called two different ways.

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Mm-hmm.

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Stallings got hit on the, yeah.

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On the wrist on Friday, I guess.

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And, uh, you know, they said, hit the bat first.

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Mm-hmm.

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It, it's, it's almost impossible to get hit on the hand and have it hit the bat.

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First.

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You, you're supposed to call and hit the bat and if they wanna review that.

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You go back in and you say it, they, they actually got it right the second time.

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Unfortunately it was for them.

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'cause I went out and he said, no, I got it hitting his hand and in the back.

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And that's almost all, unless it hits the bottom of that knob.

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Mm-hmm.

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Somehow it, it's, it's impossible to hit the bat and not your hand.

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And so that's what I said.

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I said, you gotta be kidding me, that at no point did that ball hit his

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hand and they review it and say no.

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And I was like, I don't, I don't believe it.

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I I, I told the guy the next day, I said, I, I watched it.

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Like, I don't know how you can say that ball didn't hit some part of his hand.

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Um, I'm, I'm convinced

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Replay just exists that I can say they're right.

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I don't think they even look at 'em

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anymore.

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I mean, think about what, what call, when's the last time

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you saw a call overturned?

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I've had 'em walk by me and say, let's go, let's go see them.

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Right.

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Like they don't.

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Yeah.

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I remember

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that last year when we first, when we first, you know, had it, you were

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seeing a lot of calls overturned and now, and now they're going, oh yeah,

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well, we're getting them all right.

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Well, that's garbage.

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You guys are just colluding.

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You're colluding in there.

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Uh, I

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don't like either that the guy that makes the call goes in the room.

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It's like, that's crazy.

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One of the other guy should go, that's not supposed cakes.

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Yeah.

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I, I think it happens every

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game.

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I think it's supposed to be the crew chief and the guy that didn't make the call.

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Yeah.

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Unless.

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It's got something to do with the home plate umpire.

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Like they don't want the guy having to run in there with all

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his gear on and stuff like that.

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Oh, suck those buttercup.

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Yeah, I know, I know.

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Um,

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but I mean, they were in there long enough.

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Yeah, they're in there long enough and I can't even tell you the

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last time I saw a call overturned.

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Nah, it's been a while.

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I can't remember.

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I don't know if there's been one this year.

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Like if we do, I

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guarantee it was against us.

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Yeah,

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yeah.

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Spoken

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like a true Monarch fan.

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Yeah.

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Yes.

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It's never, never in our favor there, honestly.

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No.

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Uh, yeah.

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Well, um, Norfolk State, uh, tomorrow or Tuesday, depending on when

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you're, you're listening to this.

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Mm-hmm.

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Uh, then head down to Georgia Southern.

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Uh, it, it's obviously, it's still tight race in the Sunbelt.

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I mean, I feel like everyone is still very much bunched together.

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'cause uh, Troy actually moved into a, a first place tie this week,

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eight and four with Coastal and Southern Miss and Georgia State.

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Uh, so it's, it's all still pretty jammed up, but.

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What have you seen from, uh, from Georgia Southern so far, if you've

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had a chance to take a look at 'em?

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Well, they're good and they really play well at home.

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You know, they lost two outta three to south on the road this weekend.

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Um, so again, after we played Georgia, Southern Louisiana.

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You know, outside of the last weekend against Coastal Wolf

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played six of the top seven teams.

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Um, so the schedule makers didn't do us any favors this, this year either.

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Of course, right?

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When, when they started out with Troy and Southern Miss, it was like, oh, thanks.

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Yeah.

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And, uh, Louisiana's getting healthy.

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They're, they're playing back, playing good now.

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So, but it is what it is.

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You know, I, I'm, I am, we're, you know, there's been a lot

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of teams that have been swept.

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Um, you know, I'm proud of our guys for hanging in there and not, you

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know, when we haven't, you know, won on Friday, Saturday, we haven't

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allowed our subs to be swept.

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And that gives you a chance, man, that's a, such a big two

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game swing in those weekends.

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Um, when you, when you just keep from being swept, you still got a, a shot.

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So, um, you know, we were five and seven last year at this point, and uh,

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difference was we had JMU coming in this year we're going to Georgia Southern, so.

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But I mean, if we can keep pitching, you know, overall the way we're

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pitching, find a way to get some more timely hits and, you know, we've

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gotta, we've gotta play better defense.

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I mean, we're costing our pitchers too many pitches by not making routine plays.

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And, um, those guys have to play like, uh, I don't know what

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we're gonna do at third base.

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So it is just been a mm-hmm.

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Disappointing, terrible black hole for us right now, this year.

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And I can't put it any simpler than that.

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Those guys need to step up and somebody's gotta play better over there.

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So, um.

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Plain and simple.

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And if we can do that, then, you know, I'm, I'm, I'm proud of some guys trending

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in the right direction offensively and, you know, some other things, you

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know, bullpen wise are, are better.

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And so, we'll, we'll give ourselves a chance.

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'cause our starting pitching's good.

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You know, I mean, and you know, most, most of these weekends you're seeing,

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you know, somebody's just crappy, uh, in one of those three games on the mound.

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And we really haven't been, um, for the most part.

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So, um, that's good.

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And, you know, Ben's feeling better.

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He got some new medicine for his migraines and I think he's been, you

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know, a week now without, you know, feeling dizzy or any of that stuff.

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He looked better.

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Yeah.

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Like he looked better walking around, like physically.

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And I think that, I think too, you know, every weekend, here's something

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else maybe you don't think about.

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Every weekend is a, is a different.

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Um, approach from a hitting standpoint, like what their hitters

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do and what they're good at.

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I, I really believe.

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Appalachian state and Troy, um, how they hit makes it as difficult

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on your pitchers as, as just about every other team in the league.

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I mean, they don't give that way at bats.

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They don't strike out much.

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They grind out bats, they put pitches in you.

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You know, you play a Georgia State, like they're gonna be more free

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swingers, they're gonna strike out a little more, that kind of stuff.

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And, uh, Georgia Southern has been that way.

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Um, so having to fight through those six games in a row maybe can help you, uh,

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down the road, you know, as, as you work.

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'cause maybe you get a little bit easier outs, you know, in some of these places.

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So I think that's the case.

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You know, Louisiana's, uh, usually a very left-handed heavy lineup and,

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you know, that's, um, uh, a strength of ours is left-handed pitching.

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So you like that matchup, I think.

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And, uh, we just gotta show up and, and play better behind those guys.

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Now, like when you have teams like App State and Troy, which

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I absolutely agree with you.

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The way they bat is just wonderful.

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Is that something you point out to your guys and say, Hey,

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oh, always.

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Yeah.

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Look at this.

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Yeah, because that's not, we're not good at that.

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Mm-hmm.

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No.

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You know, I, I mean part of that's personnel.

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Um, and part of it's coaching, like we gotta do a better job with 'em.

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Like it's, it's, you know, Tylers Zedalis was oh, for four, four

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strikeouts yesterday and didn't have one competitive at bat.

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Like, and he's just bailing out, you know, heads facing the third

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base coaches box on every swing.

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And I was like, go back and look man.

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Like, how can you hit that way?

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Like, nobody any good hits like that.

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And I hate to be, I'm not picking on him because he is a great

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kid, but you can't hit like that.

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It doesn't work.

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Well, the one at bat,

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he actually did have the RBI ground out was great.

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He did stayed in there the ground out.

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He, he got, yeah, but you're right.

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The other four was like, what are you doing?

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Like, why even go up?

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Yeah.

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Which it is.

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He is a great kid.

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It's, you're right.

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It's not to stick on him, it's just to point it out.

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Yep.

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Yep.

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And so it's something that guys gotta take pride in and um, unfortunately, you know,

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not enough of 'em in today's game do, but we gotta make it a point, we gotta make

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'em, I guess is a better way to say it.

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Uh, and

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that, and that's what's frustrating is because, uh, there are enough guys

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who do, you got a whole, you just saw two whole teams of them that do.

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Yeah.

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And I, I've even noticed Troy starting to crowd the plate a little

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bit more when they got two strikes.

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So it was even more than just the choking up, like at least the top

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half of that lineup was moving in about an inch closer to the plate

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anytime they got in two strike count.

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And I think that's, yeah, Ben was stay,

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if you come inside, they'll, they'll wear it.

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And again, you know, that's part of the approach.

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And um, you know, we hit a number of guys, you know, unfortunately this

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weekend and we got hit a few times too.

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But I think, uh, Ron, did Ron get hit twice yesterday trying to bunt?

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Yeah, he did.

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Trying to bunt both times.

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Competing, yeah.

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You know, it's funny, sometimes you just show bunt and the pitcher just freaks

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out and throws the ball over the place.

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Like it happens all the time.

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We've had a

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few instances this year when we're pitching and a guy shows bunt.

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Oh, oh.

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We somehow get two called strikes and then end up winning the at bat.

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We even had someone foul out this weekend against us.

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Yeah,

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yeah, yeah, yeah.

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They went to bump with two strikes and they fouled it off.

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yeah.

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Right back into the cage.

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Yeah.

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That's, uh, yeah, that's, there's different, different thought processes

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on bunting with two strikes, I guess.

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Um,

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I was always told no.

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Yeah, I'm not a fan of it.

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You fail that twice.

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Why do a third

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one?

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Yeah, yeah, exactly.

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They're probably not gonna get it done on that.

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So sometimes slashing in that, in that instance is better 'cause you still show

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the bunt and get the people moving for the bunt and then you pull back and swing and

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if you foul that off, it's a foul ball.

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Um, so yeah.

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So

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Finney uh, national championship for basketball tonight.

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You got Florida and Houston.

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Yeah, Florida.

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I mean obviously by Florida by time to

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say airs tomorrow.

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We'll know if you're right or not.

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Florida

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is so good.

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That's Pick Jr. Is unbelievable.

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Having said that, uhoh, I loved the analogy of Houston.

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Uh, somebody called him the cockroaches, like, you can't kill 'em.

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Fair.

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And they are so tough, uh, and so resilient on, on the, the rebounding

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side of things and defense.

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Yeah, there's defense.

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I think they're gonna be in the game, man.

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I mean, I really do.

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Um, and I, I think Florida's more talented.

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It wouldn't surprise.

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I think it's gonna be a great game.

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It would not surprise me in the least if Houston beats them though.

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Okay.

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Yeah.

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Kelvin s Samson's tough man.

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He's always a tough out from the tournament.

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Yeah.

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They play that defense first.

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Basketball man.

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That's, yeah.

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You talk about a

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guy that kinda reinvented himself.

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Uh, yeah.

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He was, uh, in the Bruce, him and Bruce Pearl, they were in the, uh, cheaters

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anonymous, uh, uh, meetings there back in the, uh, back in the early two thousands.

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You know, they, hi, my name is Bruce.

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I'm, I'm fan by the ncaa, hi, my name is Calvin.

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That's funny.

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Uh, and, and they've reinvented themselves and done a great job and, you know,

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take second chances, third chances, and they're, they're taking advantage of

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'em and obviously great coaches and got great teams and, you know, so, um, I

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saw something on, I don't know if it was Instagram or something where they wouldn't

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let hakeem olajuwon, on the court to celebrate with Houston after the thing.

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Like who in the world?

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Crazy.

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Yeah.

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What Dummy wouldn't let hakeem olajuwon on the court?

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I would let him do anything.

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If he just showed up and walked to my house, I'd let him hang out.

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Like, I'm not gonna, like Elijah could do anything else.

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Come on

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man.

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Like that deserves to come on, man.

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Like, yeah.

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Do you not know who that is?

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He is right.

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Seven, seven feet tall and yeah, that was, that was a bad move.

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I hope that guy's happy with himself for that.

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Yeah,

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he's probably, he's probably having a fun day yesterday until, oh

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yeah, he was getting smashed everywhere.

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Like, uh, and, and deservedly so have some feel.

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Yeah.

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Some guys think take their jobs real seriously and, you know, lack feel, but

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Yes.

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Alright, so you guys got F coming on.

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What a wonderful kid.

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And

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Yes.

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Remind

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him that, uh, when we got to the ballpark yesterday.

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They had, uh, some Latin music going and, um, whenever that's happened, I'll, uh,

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I'll ask eff, you know, what's the, you know, what are, what are they saying?

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What are, he always translates it for me.

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So it's great.

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He's

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he's smiling backstage right now.

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I can seen there.

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Yeah.

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Well, he's a great kid.

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We're, we're really happy.

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He is a monarch.

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He's ultra competitive.

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Uh, he's a winner and he is gonna be a big part of, of this program

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for, for the next few years.

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And, you know, we're, we're really proud of him.

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Absolutely.

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We're, we're excited to have him join us today.

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We did get one more voicemail and hopefully you can hear this one.

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They actually called him Wednesday, so it was before the game this weekend.

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Yeah.

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But it kind of goes back to some defensive positioning in the question they had.

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So we'll see if you can hear it here.

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Okay.

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Hi.

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I was wondering if, uh, coach Finwood consider playing Luke Waters.

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I can hear in the infield.

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Possibly at second base or third base.

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I know in his freshman year, Luke played a little second base and

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certainly played that in high school.

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So no, in the volatility we seem to have in the infield, just

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wondered if he paraphrase any

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thought.

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Yeah, yeah.

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Yep.

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See, it was tough to hear, but, uh, they're, they were asking if you

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considered, uh, moving Luke back into the infield because of some recent volatility

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with fielding within the infield, if that was an option that was on the table.

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I really haven't, I mean, Luke's, Luke's been, you know,

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going through it offensively.

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And last thing I wanna do is add, you know, having to worry about.

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All the things you gotta worry about in the infield with him.

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And he's, you know, he had, he had some better at bats yesterday.

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He had a big single force, he walked, um, and he hit some balls Hard.

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I mean, right now what Luke's going through is part of the thing that,

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you know, classifies the S-L-U-M-P.

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Uh, when you hit it hard, it set somebody and you know, you, he's

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gotta get more balls in play.

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Certainly he knows that.

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But he'll, you know, maybe I said maybe they're just saving 'em all up

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for second half of the season, man.

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Like, yeah, think about it that way.

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That's possible.

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So when he gets hot, he can carry you.

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And so hopefully we, we got that coming up.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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Well, we, we appreciate the calls that came in, uh, both from Aaron and, uh,

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didn't leave the name on that second call, but appreciate the, the call in.

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We'll definitely be getting to 'em.

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Uh, coach, we appreciate as always you coming on here.

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Uh, it's been a blast having you on this season.

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Got a lot of compliments from parents and fans.

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About the show and mainly because we have you on and we have players

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on it, so we, we appreciate you.

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Yeah.

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Well, and, and I tell our players the, these same things, so I don't think

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any of them are surprises and I don't ever wanna come across as trying to,

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um, you know, blame or deflect or complain about anyone's performance.

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These guys are college kids.

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They're trying their butts off.

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Um, it's our job to help 'em and support 'em.

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And sometimes that's being honest and, you know, being honest and, uh,

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being able to handle honest feedback from people that care about how you're

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doing, um, and are invested in it.

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You know, like we work our tails off of these guys.

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So, um, I think we're entitled to be honest with 'em and give them honest

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feedback and, um, we want them to be better and we're gonna keep on working on

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trying to find ways to help 'em be better.

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You know, as long as they're playing in our program, that's our job.

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And, um, so I, I just think it's important that, you know, when, when

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a guy does well, you, you tell 'em.

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And when he is not doing well, you tell him that too.

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And it's equal opportunity.

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Um, we're not, we're not just trying to candy coat everything,

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but we want guys to, you know.

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We want guys to be honest about their own performance.

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'cause I don't think a lot of kids are, I think they can, you know, live

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in this candy shell of a, of a, you know, a barrier where they're just not

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gonna admit what's really going on.

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And some guys got competition anxiety, like they're afraid of failure.

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Mm-hmm.

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And so what does that cause guess what?

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Failure, uh, that's how it works.

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Yeah.

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And, you know, and that's the beauty of guys and some of

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this comes down to recruiting.

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All right.

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Uh, I've heard it said, Hey, if you don't want, uh, problems with

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your team, don't recruit kids with a bunch of attitude problems.

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Right.

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If you want a competitive team.

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You need the crew to recruit a bunch of dudes like Effer Morales.

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'cause that sucker likes to play.

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Yes.

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And he hates to lose and he'll bite your knees off to get a win.

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So, uh, we need more guys.

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Is that the right level for it?

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Quite honest.

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And, um, that's a, that's just the, you know, that's the, on us to find

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that type of attitude, that type of desire, that type of competitive spirit.

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Um, because it, it is contagious.

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And when you don't have enough of it, it's contagious as well.

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Yep.

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Absolutely.

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Well said.

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All right.

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Appreciate, we'll see you out tomorrow.

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Looking forward to it.

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Yep.

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See you.

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Good luck.

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Thank you.

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All right, go Monarch.

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Let's take a go Monarchs.

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Go Monarchs.

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All right, we're gonna take a quick break.

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When we come back, we will have Efrain Morales joining us.

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Yay.

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Welcome back, Monarch fans.

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We are joined by Morales, uh, catcher dh.

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I'm heard, I've been told that you can play pretty much anywhere

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in the field, but Efrain, thanks so much for joining us today.

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A hundred percent.

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Love to be here.

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Yeah.

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Well, uh, I think that was your first time playing in Harbor Park, at least for ODU.

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What was that experience like over the weekend?

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It was awesome.

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Um, really playing in a big stadium like that is like an honor.

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It's like a really, like a blessing, especially at like such a high level.

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And competing against a really good team too, was also like a

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very, very good experience for me, especially as a freshman.

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Well, I know you got to play at the AA park down there in Biloxi.

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Mm-hmm.

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Um,

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I wanna hear about how that was, but have you played in any other pro parks?

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Um, so at P 27, um, uh, there's this team that we played against us called PDG.

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Uh, they played in the national Sing a, um, stadium.

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It's a pretty nice stadium.

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I think it's here in Virginia actually.

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Is that the one in in Fredericksburg?

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Fredericksburg, yes.

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It's a really nice park.

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Nice.

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Very nice park.

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Nice.

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Okay.

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How'd you like?

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And so Biloxi, I dunno know about you.

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For me, Biloxi, that was, that was pretty wild that they had that place packed.

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Like, I couldn't leave the dog out to take pictures.

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There's nowhere to go.

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Oh yeah.

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That place was, there were so many fans, like all around the ballpark.

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It was, it was insane.

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Yeah.

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Those Mississippi State fans showed up.

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Yeah.

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Oh yeah.

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So a hundred

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percent.

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You mentioned P 27.

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Now, uh, now a lot of folks maybe don't know about this.

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So you, you went to, it's called P 27 Academy.

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It's like a baseball high school basically.

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Right.

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Yes, sir. It's uh, just the academy for baseball and that's it.

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Just baseball.

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And then we have school online.

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Mm-hmm.

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Wow.

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So you were there

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for what, one year?

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Two year?

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How many years were you there?

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I was there for two years, my junior year and, and senior year of high school.

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Nice.

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And how far away is that?

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'cause that that's in South Carolina, correct?

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In, yeah.

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South Carolina.

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In

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Lexington?

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Yep.

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Okay.

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And you, but you live uh, with Raleigh?

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I'm trying to, I'm trying to, yeah.

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Raleigh, North Carolina.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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So about was about like

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four hours.

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How far is that?

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About four, because depending on traffic too.

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'cause you have to go through Charlotte and Charlotte's never fun to go through.

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Always traffic.

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I used to

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live in Charlotte, so Charlotte's more fun to stay in than to go through.

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Oh yeah, a hundred percent.

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Yeah.

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So much

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traffic around there.

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But yeah, it's about four hours.

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So you, so you're

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living away from home all throughout, you know, the school year, right?

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Is that, that's what's happening?

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Junior and senior year away from home.

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Yeah.

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How is that?

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I mean, that's, that's, that's different, man.

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You don't see that, I mean, I guess you're seeing it more now with these academies,

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but like, what's that like for you?

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So like that first year was, was a little tough 'cause like I was

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definitely homesick, especially as a junior in high school.

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Mm-hmm.

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Um, but it is definitely built a lot of maturity in me.

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Like not much high schoolers get to go, um, out of state and be with a

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bunch of guys that love to compete and it just matured me a lot.

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Especially matured me and uh, preparing me for college for sure.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I mean we're definitely seeing that a lot more.

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Sorry, Gary.

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'cause but we're, 'cause I know what Cole Lanford, he was at the P five we got Yeah.

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Pro five.

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Yeah.

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Oron and Baes both were IMG, uh, SIO was, was P five to, uh, pro five.

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Yeah.

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I think somebody else was PI mean we, it's starting to become a thing now,

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especially as you see the D one level.

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Oh yeah.

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What I mean, so as someone, you know, you don't have to sell it if

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you thought it sucked, but it sounds like you probably had a good time.

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What, for people who might be thinking about maybe sending their

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kid to one of these academies, what would you tell 'em about it?

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Um, I would tell 'em for sure.

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It definitely gets you ready for the next level.

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Um, uh, the difference between, um, college and, uh, the academy baseball?

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Um, playing wise, it's gonna be like, uh, the fastball, uh, velos would be the same.

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The only difference is that like D one, you're definitely coached a lot better.

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Um, and the pitchers know how to locate a lot more and they're not

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throwing 97 to your head 24 7.

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So, uh, but yeah, it's, uh, that's the only difference and

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the competition is really good.

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Um, yeah, the competition all around, I mean, um, our whole lineup,

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um, this last year we're all, uh, division, uh, one, um, players in

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the lineup, so it was very cool.

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I.

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Oh, that must have been just a stud lineup there.

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Oh yeah.

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It was, it was insane.

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Uh, our first five were, and it was insane.

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It was, uh, a great experience for sure.

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Yeah.

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I mean, I see you share stuff on social media.

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You got guys like all over, like Florida and some different places.

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Oh

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yeah.

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We had, we had some studs, like our first five were like all going

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to like the SEC and like Arkansas.

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Florida, yeah.

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Um, wake Forest, like bunch of dudes, like they're bunch

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of dudes that are really good.

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Yeah.

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The few times I've seen like IMG or seen Pro five, it's like, this is really good.

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This isn't high school baseball.

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This is really, really good.

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I, I've seen 'em like beat JUCO teams who were pretty solid JUCO teams.

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Oh yeah, yeah, for sure.

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We've played, uh, we've played a couple really good jucos too.

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As a matter of fact, we, uh, we played, uh, north, north Greenville University.

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They're a very solid D two school down in South Carolina.

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Yeah.

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And they're, lemme tell you, they're pretty good.

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And we put a good fight against them last year.

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Nice.

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Yeah.

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Well, I imagine with that much D one talent, there's, there's probably not

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a huge difference in rosters, even, even with the age differences there.

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Oh, no.

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A hundred percent.

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Yeah.

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Well, I know you've, you've gotten the chance to start catching, uh,

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a couple times for us this year.

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I know you're still kind of rehabbing off of an arm injury,

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but have you always been a catcher?

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Is that something you've moved to recently, or what was, what was

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your positional journey there?

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Um, so it was, uh, so starting off with like the young days, uh,

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like literal league, uh, I was always a second basement because I

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was never the tallest, like what?

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I, yeah.

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Like I was cb you know, I'm short, I'm short.

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Um, and I, I admit no.

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And so how tall

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are you for people who aren't aware?

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How tall?

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How tall do you tell people you are, I guess the reality,

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so I tell 'em I'm five nine.

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In reality, like, I'm like five, seven, and like three fours.

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Okay.

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All right.

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I'll let you see.

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I

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was gonna let you go with what you said.

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I, I was gonna let you go with what you tell 'em.

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You didn't have to, you didn't have to give yourself out like that.

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But that's, I, I appreciate the honesty.

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Yeah, a hundred percent.

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Uh, but with cleats on, I'm definitely five nine.

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Oh, I was gonna say.

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And spikes.

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And spikes.

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You're good.

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That was always my out too.

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Five, nine.

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You put like thick socks on.

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You're like six one.

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I see you.

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Yep, yep, yep.

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You play it like you're seven feet tall, that's what's what matters.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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And, but going to like the positional like, um, topic.

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Um, I started off as a second basement.

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Um, I was a second baseman, outfielder, and then one of my

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coaches, uh, from middle league was like, you have a really good arm,

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uh, that's probably behind the plate.

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And this was like maybe sixth grade.

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And my dad was a catcher too, and uh, back in his day.

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So he was all for it.

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And ever since then, um.

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Just became a catcher and I enjoyed it, but I also miss like, being

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in the outfield, like it's always fun to like go in the outfield

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and, and catch 'em fly balls.

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I haven't played second for a while though.

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Yeah.

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You, you probably would not miss, you know, taking a foul ball to the

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inside of your knee, which I think is what happened on Sunday, right?

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Like, you're just

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getting beaten up back there.

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Oh yeah.

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I, hmm.

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I have a big bruise right now in that, in that, uh, inner

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thigh, it's not the best feeling.

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Was that one of the biggest things, because I know you, you've been

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playing a lot, you've been ding

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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And I

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know you've been catching a ton of bullpens, but then when you actually

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getting in the game is that reminder of like, oh yeah, this is what it's really

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like when you're getting those foul balls.

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Yep.

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Yep.

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It's gotta be a kind of a shock to your body.

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Yeah.

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Uh, and then the first, the first game I caught, I got a bat to the knee.

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Oof.

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That one did not feel good either.

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That was Georgia State, right?

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Georgia State?

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I don't know how you stayed in that game.

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'cause I, I heard the bat hit your knee and I was hoping it just hit the pad,

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but obviously it didn't and I think you got on base the next half inning

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and I saw you trying to run the second.

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I was like, oh no, that's, that looks painful.

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Yeah.

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There's, there's one thing about me and it's like, I never want

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to get out of the game ever.

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It's, uh, it's more of like a, it's just like the competitive in me.

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It's like, even if I'm limping, like I never want to get outta the game.

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It's just the way I was taught by my father and mom's just being tough.

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For sure.

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Definitely.

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Yeah.

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You, you're a competitive guy that's, I know yesterday you had

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a, you had a really, you swung it really well and I think it just

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got caught like at the last second.

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And, uh, you, you let anybody in, in hearing distance knew

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you were not happy about that?

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No.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, I was not happy for sure.

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I was not happy.

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Well still, you know, going four for five, uh, against the 23 team in

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the country is not, not a bad day.

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So,

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no, uh, no, not a bad day at all.

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So first four hit game at college.

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I gotta imagine you've had some four hit games in the past.

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Oh yeah.

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I mean, I really don't, I mean, I've definitely have, but like,

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don't really like, focus on that.

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Like yesterday all I was focused on was winning that game.

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Yeah,

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that's great.

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For sure.

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Hey,

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you were part of it for sure, man.

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Oh yeah.

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That was awesome.

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That's too, so I, I have to imagine probably you probably haven't dhd a

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ton in the past before the season.

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How has that been kind of transitioning and figuring that out?

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Um,

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honestly, it definitely saves the legs a bunch.

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Like, and my legs feel fresh, but it was definitely like hard 'cause like

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DH and like, if you have a bad day at dh, like you can't say, oh, I did

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really good on the field, you know.

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Like if you have a bad day hitting and then you do good on the field, it's like,

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all right, now tomorrow let's do better.

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But like, ding, it's just like if you do bad ding, you can't

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say you did good on the field.

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Yeah.

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Well, speaking of that, you know, you, you get off a really great

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start, you know, you're killing it.

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We're like, Hey, this guy's amazing, right?

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Uh, we got on to Auburn first at bat of the whole series to smoke one over

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the wall, and it's like, holy crap, RAI is the best player we ever had.

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This guy, I love this kid,

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which I still,

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you're still, you're still awesome.

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I still love you.

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Um, but then like you hit that home run.

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And then I think, I think I was looking at minute.

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I was like, oh, for 25 until, yeah, like the rest of that trip.

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What was, so what was that like, you know, after all that success, I

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mean, like you said, you're, you're clearly the guy you like to compete.

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I mean, how did you, how did you deal with it?

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How'd you get through it?

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And I mean, clearly you're, we're on the other side, now you're back kind

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of, you know, being yourself again.

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Um, so talking about that, like, I have such a great roommate,

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my roommate's, Kyle Edwards.

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Oh yeah.

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Um, so like every day he's always like boosting up my energy and making sure

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to tell me like that I'm that guy.

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Um, and every, every good baseball player, um, everybody goes through slumps.

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I mean, it's just part of the baseball.

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Like baseball's not just skyrocket going up.

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It's a more of like a wave, you know?

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And I, you was gonna get, uh, out of it soon.

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Uh, it was just about time that I was gonna get out of it, so.

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Well, you've definitely been hitting the ball well of late and of course going

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four for five on, on Sunday against Troy.

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Uh, you've also had some pretty epic photos taken.

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I don't know if you've noticed it.

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I think that the Georgia State series, you had, I think, I think our social

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media outlets, the teams, everyone else had you celebrating in second base.

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And then, uh, CB grabs this one yesterday.

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Oh, that was

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a great one.

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I saw that one yesterday.

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Yeah, he have F's, uh, he's a handsome man, so he, he's, he's

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a big fan of photos of himself.

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Thank you.

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So he, he's definitely a guy that I, I know appreciates him, that's for sure.

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Yep.

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Love the photos, especially the one that I'm hyped up in.

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I love seeing.

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Yeah.

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Hyped up during the game for sure.

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Oh yeah.

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You had, I think the Georgia State one, I, I don't have it up at the, the

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moment, but you had slid into second.

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It popped up and I think you're giving like a double

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thumbs up back to the dugout.

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Yeah, that's a good one too.

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Amazing, uh, series win picture that we used for sure.

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Yes.

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And then, uh, course CB got another good one yesterday.

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One of your, one of your four hits on Sunday there.

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One of the many hits.

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Yes.

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Yes.

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And this is what I love too, is this like, you always have this like textbook swing.

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I mean, this is like exa like, if you were gonna like draw what a baseball

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swing looks like, like, I mean I, the, I have so many pictures because you

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have so many hits, but I have so many pictures of like, just like this where

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it's like just head down, hands to bat.

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I mean, uh, hands to barrel, like bald at bat.

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Like it's just the best, what you wanna do every time.

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Yep.

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That's

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great man.

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Yeah.

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Well what

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that's go every time.

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What is kind of your mindset when you go to the play?

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'cause you know, obviously we're, we're seeing some guys that are, they're

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scuffling a little bit right now.

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They're, they're trying to have more competitive at bats.

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Uh, facing good pitching.

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I'll definitely caveat with that.

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They face good pitching, but what's going through your mind from on

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deck circle, getting some warmup swings and then going into the box,

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uh, on deck circle.

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I don't know if you guys see me, but I get close to the fence.

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Um, and I just from trying to have a short swing, try to hug myself.

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'cause if I try to hug myself, the shortest I can be, the more

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barrel I'm gonna get to the bowl.

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Um, and I try to have an approach before I get into the box because once you

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start thinking so much, like my dad will make me watch like Tony Gwin growing up.

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Mm-hmm.

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And he always said like, if you start thinking in the

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box, your abs already over.

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Um, so I have an approach before the box, um, and I talked to h uh, about

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the approach, what the guy has, and I mostly just try to sit on the fastball.

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Um, I try to really hit that fastball and then if he pops a slider and I

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can see the slider of his hand and he hangs it, um, definitely swing at it.

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And I like to drive those pitchers a lot, but mostly, uh, getting in

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there and swinging at a fastball anywhere near the strike zone.

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Really try to be aggressive.

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And that's just a game plan that I have always.

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You, you talk about that kind of shorter compact swing, get

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more barrel over the plate.

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I also noticed that you do crowd the plate a little bit more than

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maybe some other footers do.

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Yes.

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And that shows up with, I think you've been hit by a pitch

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nine times so far this season.

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Nine times.

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Nine times.

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Yeah.

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But that I, I think you have the right idea of that short compact swing.

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And, uh, I, CB actually pointed out to me in some photos of Kyle yesterday

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on his, the home runs he hit, you can see his hands are tucked in tight.

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He's got that shorter compact swing.

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Mm-hmm.

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And he hits two bombs to the left center.

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So maybe he's been watching you a little bit on those avs.

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No, I've been watching him.

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I look up to Kyle a lot for sure.

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Well, that's, that definitely a good one to, uh, to look out for.

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He is, he's been on with us a couple times, uh, and we, we certainly

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enjoy chatting to him as well.

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No, I've been watching, I dunno if I've ever told you, I've been

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watching Kyle play since he was like 14, and kid's just phenomenal.

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I'm, I'm always been such a fan.

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Um, so, so f how did you end up at ODU, right?

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I, you said you're, you're from North Carolina, playing down in South Carolina.

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How do you end up here at ODU?

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Uh, so, um,

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recruiting process.

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Talking about the recruiting process, um,

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I didn't really talk to a lot of schools, like, not really like it would be

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talking to like schools close to home.

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And they all wanted me as like a utility outfielder.

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Um, the only school that wanted me as a catcher was Old Dominion.

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Um, and so I took the opportunity, uh, Logan Robbins was the one

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that was recruiting me at the time, and so did Marin, um, and.

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Funny story is when I committed, um, I think it was he's first

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day or something like that.

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Oh wow.

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And I think it was, he's like, first zoom call and I committed,

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uh, that day with, uh, hey, on Zoom call and Marin on Zoom call.

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That's a hell of a first day.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Pretty

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good.

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Yeah.

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Well, how, how have you adjusted coming to ODU being in college?

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I mean, it sounds like where you're at prepped you a little bit.

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Mm-hmm.

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Um, what have been some adjustments you've had to make coming into the college world?

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Um, so coming into like the college world, I mean, definitely like school part of it.

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Uh, like I said, like I had online school, so it was just online, so

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it was kind of weird like going into the first day of, uh, school and.

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Going into class and I actually had to like pay attention to a teacher.

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That was definitely like a big, a big adjustment to Yeah, the school.

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As a former

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teacher who taught during Covid, I I absolutely understand

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what you're talking about.

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Yeah.

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So it was definitely, uh, quite a bit of a adjustment for sure.

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And I imagine that just the student population's a lot bigger too.

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'cause you've just got a bunch of kids playing baseball.

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How many, how many kids were in that, that academy?

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Um, so there was, I think there was exactly 52 kids.

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So yeah, 52 compared to walking around campus.

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And it's just a bunch of people that I do not even know.

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It's kind of a, definitely a big adjustment.

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You could meet 52 new people every single day and still not

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probably by the end of the year.

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And not even come close to gotten everybody.

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No, definitely not.

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Yeah.

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You were in classes that were bigger than your school.

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I had that experience too, so I know how you feel.

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Yeah, it was a, it was a pretty big adjustment for

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the first two weeks for sure.

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Yeah.

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That's great, man.

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Well, I know you're in the house with Kyle.

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I think I, I can't remember who all lives there.

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Kyle was sold this before, but Is Luke in that house too?

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Uh, so, no.

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So, um, Kyle was my roommate on, uh, on the road.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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Uh, so my house, it's, uh, Rocky and Evan.

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Okay.

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Uh, Holman.

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Yeah.

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Yep.

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There's no other Evan, I dunno why I'm asking.

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Yeah, not currently.

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Yeah.

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So, okay.

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So yeah.

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Not, but yeah.

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So Rocky Green is a freshman.

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Freshman pitchers, yes.

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Red Shirting, uh, and then Evan catcher.

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So, so you and Evan, you guys have, you guys have catcher talks a lot.

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You guys just sit there like in your mask, in the living room and, and

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have catcher, the master living room.

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Yeah, for sure.

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We'd be talking a lot about baseball and we love to watch, uh, wheels on YouTube.

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Um, so we love to watch baseball.

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For sure.

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There we go.

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Okay.

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I noticed he started using the, the hockey mask.

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Is that something, did you get him to, to do that?

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No.

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No, I did not.

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I'm surprised he started, uh, doing that actually.

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Yeah.

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I have to talk to him.

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I don't, I don't, I don't remember

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him using it during the fall, during the scrimmages at all.

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He is, he's always been using the, uh, the old style two piece.

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Yeah, for sure.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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But I talked, I talked to his parents for quite a while before the game on

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Saturday when we were over at Waterside, and I did not think to ask that mass

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question, so I should have done that.

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That's fair.

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Well, we got a podcast.

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We'll ring on at some point.

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Ask him.

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There we go.

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Save some content.

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So

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I, I know like Finney, like one, I think one of the very first podcasts we did

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this year, you know, we're talking about you and what you may be able to do and he

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was talking about the possibility of you playing some second base in left field.

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Now I know.

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And now again, you probably mm-hmm.

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You just heard him saying is like, this is probably gonna

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be our catch for the future.

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And I, I'm all for that.

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'cause you're awesome.

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Uh, and I, I love your energy back there, but is that playing other positions?

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Is that something you're like down for?

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You're like, that's okay by me.

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Oh yeah, for sure.

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I mean the, I just love to be on the field and competing with guys that I love.

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That's all I really care about.

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I could be first basement, I mean, I'd probably be the shortest first

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basement in the whole country, but, uh, I'll definitely love,

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uh, to play anywhere on the field.

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It doesn't matter with me.

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Yeah.

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Kind of the answer I expected, that's why I wanted to ask it

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eventually.

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All the short guys that are decent at baseball are told you can't

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play first base anymore because you're, you know, 5 7, 5 8.

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Yeah, you're right here.

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I got, I have some old first baseman m for you.

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The funny thing is I've been to plenty of AAA games where they just like,

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well, we need a guy in the lineup.

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So they end up throwing like some like five, nine guy to play first base.

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So weirdly it like in the minor leagues kind of turns around

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just like, whatever, man.

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Go over there.

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Yeah.

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So, uh, my junior year, uh, I forgot what it was of high school.

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Um, uh, we were playing a game and I think when our first baseman got hurt.

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And our, uh, our catcher was usually like the back and first basement.

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Mm-hmm.

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And I was, eh, hing.

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'cause you know how you could hit like 10 guys in the lineup during high school?

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Yeah.

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So I was like, eh, hing.

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So they just put me to first base

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and it was, it was a lot of fun.

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Lemme tell you.

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It was a lot of fun.

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Yeah.

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You probably get a chance to talk to everybody.

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That's why I know some guys love that.

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Like Vinny Serino played here.

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That was his favorite thing about playing first base.

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Talked to everybody.

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Everybody.

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Everybody.

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Yeah.

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Oh yeah.

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I

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definitely talked to everybody when I was playing.

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Yeah, there you go.

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I played two innings and then it was a lot of fun.

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You tell 'em guys just throw it low.

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If you throw it low, we're fine.

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Yep.

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Oh yeah.

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Because you've got the flexibility.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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You've got the flexibility to get down and stretch for it.

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No doubt it's those.

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No.

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Yeah, it's the high.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I don't know if I'll be able to catch those.

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Yeah.

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Oh,

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so, uh, hey, we, we asked finna a minute ago, national Championship tonight.

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Who you got?

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Florida.

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Houston.

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What do you think?

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Man, I don't know.

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Um, I forgot who was talking about it, but he's a famous, um, like reporter and that,

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and he was saying that he has Houston because Houston just wants it more.

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And like, they're more like, they're tough.

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But I think I have the Gators win.

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Uh, I've got with

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the Gators too.

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I just, I like the talent.

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I like their bigs.

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The kid, Clayton, the point guard's really good.

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But I like the, I like, you know, I'm a big guy.

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I like, I like centers and power forwards anyway.

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And they got some good advice.

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Yeah,

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I think I got the Gators with 'em, uh, this game.

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They've had a good run this whole year.

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They said by the time this comes out tomorrow, we'll know we're

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either correct or we're incorrect.

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We, oh yeah, they'll,

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oh yeah.

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I, I, I need the gators for both the bracket pool and uh, you know, a. A wager

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that was placed back in, uh, November that had some pretty good odds on it.

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So go, go Gators to me,

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I had a 97% bracket on the women's bracket.

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I, I crushed that one.

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Really?

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Yeah.

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I almost had, I had the points down to like two points.

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Like I was, I I did really well on that one.

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Yeah.

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Did you have Yukon winning the whole thing?

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I had Yon Yukon, the over South Carolina.

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Yep.

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Mm-hmm.

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I, I picked like the final four.

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I had it, like, I, I crushed it on the women's, the men's brutal like 56%.

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But I

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feel like, I feel like with men's, like you, you never know what's gonna happen.

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You know what's funny though?

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That, and that's why I thought I had a chance, but I think this year was more

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like the, the better teams just won.

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It's almost like this, this year for sure.

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The, the, the portal is more like, because that was always the

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thing with the women's, it was like the, the very best player.

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It was like a, the pyramid went kind of straight up.

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Yeah.

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The very

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best players at the very top.

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So I was just like, Hey, you picked the best schools.

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That's why I picked you guys.

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It's like they got Paige Becker's, right?

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Yeah.

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Um,

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but with the men's teams, I think it became more like that this year

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where it was like, no, the, the talent is gets pushed upwards.

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Mm-hmm.

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Yep.

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It was wild.

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Only the second time ever.

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There's been all one seeds in the final Four.

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And then, uh, on the women's side, I think it's the first time in a while

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that a one seed does not want it.

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'cause somehow eComm was a two.

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Uh, but I swear, CB you and I must hang out too much.

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You must be high mine because I'm in the 97th percentile as well.

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And I had a perfect Final Four and National Final

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Game Champion, so, wow.

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Uh, Gary, you gotta ask him my, our favorite question.

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Oh, yes.

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All right.

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So, uh, college football, video games come out.

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We know there's a college component to MLB, the show.

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So we're asking all the guys what would your overall rating be and what

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would be your, like, your strongest category, whether it's like power

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against lefties, contact bunting, fielding could be anything, but what's

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your overall and what and where do you spike there on those ratings?

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Man, like overall, if they made like a NCA baseball,

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yeah.

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If they made that again, that'd be great.

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That would be awesome.

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Yeah, I'll be playing that 24 7 for sure.

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Me too.

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I used to, I'll be putting myself on road to the show and

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just grinding that out for sure.

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Yes.

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That would be so much fun.

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Um, I don't know.

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I mean, I'll like, I'll give myself a high rating just 'cause like

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freshmen come in.

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I'll give myself like an 85 overall coming in.

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All's pretty good.

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Freshman solid.

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Yeah.

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Solid for freshman.

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Zach.

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Late last week.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Zach Leite last week, said he was 99.

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Overall, there were no questions, no hesitation.

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He went full 99.

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Well, big late big lake's.

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Different big lake's, hitting that ball hard every time.

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Yes.

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He, yes.

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He's, he is raking right now

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and with two strikes, he gets that contact approach and, and hits it that other way.

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Like it's, yep.

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Yeah, he's putting on a clinic, that's for sure.

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Yep.

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He sure is.

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Uh,

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so what's the second part?

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What would your, what would your top, uh, if you could give yourself

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like a, like a highest score in one of the, one of the category?

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So Lefty, uh, hitting off a lefty, I'll give myself like a 99 overall.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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Uh, love, love hitting off lefties.

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One of my favorite things to do, love, um, off variety, depending on if it

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throws submarine or over the top.

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'cause some guys, some variety, uh, their sinkers are pretty gross.

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Yeah.

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Um, so probably like off variety.

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Probably give myself like a. 85 to 80 grade, which is still really good.

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Okay.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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You put some numbers up at those ratings.

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I like it.

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We got it.

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See, I see the ability to, to grow.

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Are you a big video game guy?

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I'm not, actually.

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I like to.

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Okay, that's fair.

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I like to explore out and I'm more of like, I like to go out to the

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beach and like do stuff like that.

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What's, uh, the best spot you've found so far here?

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You don't have to give away if it's like secret.

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I don't want you to give away, like you spot everybody else gets Do

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you have have fans lining up there waiting for you?

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Yeah.

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Right.

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Oh, no, it's not, it's not a secret.

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Uh, I forgot what it was called actually.

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It's, I just went last week with Rocky actually.

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Um,

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it's not, it's it's the bay.

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It's pretty, it's pretty, it's not like Virginia Beach.

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It's like the View streets, that area.

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Yeah, I think it's uh, like Ocean View.

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Ocean View.

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That's what it's called.

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Yeah.

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Ocean Beach.

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It is pretty, man.

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Yeah, it's pretty nice just going out there and seeing the ocean.

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I like to do that.

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Yeah.

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There we go.

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Yeah, I mean, because growing up

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in North Carolina and, and living in South Carolina, you did

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probably didn't see it too much.

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No.

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Yeah, not too much.

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Well, I, I actually grew up in, uh, so I was born in Puerto Rico,

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so there's just water all around.

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And then from Puerto Rico, I moved to Miami, so there was a lot of water too,

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and I didn't move to North Carolina until my sophomore year of high school.

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wow.

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Okay.

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When did you

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leave Puerto Rico?

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Uh, I think I was three or four years old.

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So there few years.

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And then Miami for a good chunk.

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Yeah.

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All right.

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Yeah.

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So you, so you are used to the water.

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So you get back to it, that's ice.

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Okay.

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Yeah.

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But moving to North Carolina was like, oh yeah.

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It's just freeze and mountains.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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And, and, and hot and humid in the summer.

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Oh man.

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It is so bad.

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And the pollen.

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Yeah.

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I, I, the pollen is bad.

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Pollen's gone bad.

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Oh.

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Just, just this weekend I feel like you could cut through the air with a knife.

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You could just see it floating underneath the lights.

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Oh,

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yeah.

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And now since it just rained, like you could see like the pollen,

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like right now outside my window.

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Yeah.

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You could see like the water and like the, yeah.

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Oh,

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that's crazy.

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I could see

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it.

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'cause I was taking pictures through the net.

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I could see in my pictures, I had to like, change the tint 'cause everything was like

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yellow through the, through the pictures.

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Oh, awesome.

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Well, rem we'll, uh, we're gonna let you get outta here, but really

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appreciate your time coming on.

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It was great to chat with you, uh, awesome.

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This awesome past weekend and definitely rooting for you.

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Thank you so much.

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In Norfolk State and then Georgia Southern this weekend coming up.

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Yeah.

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Thank you so much, man.

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It's been a blast, man.

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Thank you guys for having me on.

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You're, you know, I, I tell a lot of our guys this, but like, you're,

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you're what a monarch should be, man.

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You're just, you're here, you're engaged, you're, you're a fighter.

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We love it, man.

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I'm, I'm excited to get to get to watch with you.

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You, you're gonna play at Charlottesville this summer, is that right?

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From the top box?

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Yeah.

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Charlottesville.

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So I'm, I'm pretty close.

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It's only two hours away.

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Yeah.

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My born too, but yeah, but it's, it's, uh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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But we'll, so yeah, we'll definitely, we'll definitely pop up there and

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get to see you and that's, that's the one anybody who's in Virginia

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get, go out and see a, a Tom.

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So game this summer and catch Efron.

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Uh, probably getting three or four more hits every day of that one.

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A hundred percent.

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Thank you guys for having me on.

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Alright, thank you.

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Thanks

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man.

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Appreciate you man.

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Take care.

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Thank you guys.

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Good kid.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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That's

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weird when that, when that camera went back to me, I had like a

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weird angle I was sitting at.

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Well, we can zoom it in a little more if you want.

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I look like, look like I got a neck today.

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I dunno what's going on.

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All right.

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Yeah, no efron's awesome man.

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So he is a good kid.

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I, I, I was getting a chance to talk to him a little bit.

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You know, I met him, uh, at, when he came for, they, they had the, their

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weekend, like official visit weekend before they do the signing day.

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And we, you know, took some pictures and I talked to him a little bit through social

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media, just like, man, this kid's awesome.

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And yeah, he's, he, he's the real deal.

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He's fun to watch, play.

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Uh, he's really fun to watch when he's in the batters box and working

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through account, uh, 'cause you're seeing him do all the things that

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Finney is talking about with getting a little bit more in on the plate,

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having smart at bats, fighting up there, making the picture uncomfortable.

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He does a really good job of that.

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And you're seeing it show up in the stats.

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I mean, I think he's moved up to second on the team in, in average or, uh,

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third on the team in average, 2 98.

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Uh, getting on base pretty well at 3 85, uh, six dubs.

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I mean, not striking out a ton either.

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Yeah, yeah.

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He's

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only striking out 21% of the time, which is phenomenal in the modern game.

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Yeah.

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So he's, he's a fun one to watch.

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So if you come out to a game, definitely keep your eye out for

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ing and, uh, you know, he's got a very, very bright career ahead of

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him here at ODU u that we're pretty,

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and it is great to, that's one of the amazing things about baseball is, you

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know, he isn't, he is not a big guy.

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I mean, like, he, he did really admit like five seven, like, that's pretty,

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he might be shorting himself a little.

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Actually, five eight might be right.

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But that's the cool thing about baseball is that, you know, we all

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love, like the picture of Altuve standing next to Aaron Judge, right.

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I mean, and I've stood side by side by both those guys, and Altuve is every bit

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of five three and Judge is every bit of six eight, maybe he might be six, nine.

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I mean, they, I think they actually short his height.

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Um, and the fact that you can go on a baseball field and both those

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guys can be amazing at the sport.

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Like they're both phenomenal.

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They're both, they're both just.

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Top of the world ball players, and that's such a cool thing.

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That's one of the amazing things I think about baseball.

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They both won an MVP and that's the difference.

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That's, that is is wild.

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Um, yeah.

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I've, I've stood on the field at Minute made with Altuve and my dad and mm-hmm.

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Not one of us is even sniffing six foot.

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And we're lucky if we, we get mistaken for five nine.

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So it's, uh,

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I, I am a full foot taller than Tuve, like, for sure.

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Yeah.

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And, and at the same time, judge Towers over me, it makes me feel tiny.

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So it just to show that, that that difference, it's what a, there's those, I

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mean, you see basketball, you occasionally see like, oh, there, it's been a while

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since Mugsy bogs is out there playing.

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So it can, it can happen, but baseball is really the only

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one where you really have that.

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A guy rim size can really go out and be as big as anybody.

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And that's, I think it's just a cool part of the sport.

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It is, it's very fun.

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All right, we got a couple things to cover here.

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We're gonna definitely hit players of the week, uh, but stick around because

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we have a new way to track monarchs that are now in the minors, the majors and

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indie ball that we wanna walk you through as well, and a couple other things, but.

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We gotta go with players of the week here.

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Yeah.

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There we did it.

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So, let's see.

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Uh, and of course I, I immediately had my phone away when it was time for this.

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Uh, but Kyle had a great week.

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He, he really is.

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He, the big thing is he, yesterday's game hit the two home runs.

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He was four for 13 for the week, which isn't amazing, but two Homers, three

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rbis, had a walk, played great defense.

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I mean, I, I, I was telling him yesterday before the game, I was like, man, you

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really were playing phenomenal defense on, on, uh, Friday and Saturday.

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And he kept it up yesterday.

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So that's as much as anything.

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Um, uh, and of course I just put this down as I had more point to make, uh, 'cause

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Raim, you know, with the four hit day, he was four for nine for the week, as I

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think he didn't start one of the games.

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RBI and A walk, and, and Zach late, another great week, five

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for 13, three rbis, four walks.

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Um, you know, before yesterday's game, there weren't a lot of

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options for hit of the week.

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It got kind of like, no, who had two hits this week.

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Uh, so it was good that a few of the guys pulled it out there.

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It was, and Kyle was the catalyst that got us to that win on Sunday.

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Uh, he homered in the two innings that we scored runs, uh, on, on Sunday.

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So kind of being that senior leader again, stepping up in big moments,

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taking a good approach at the plate and getting two balls up and outta the

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ballpark on a very, very windy day.

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Uh, but we needed that win.

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Getting swept there would make the math really difficult to do.

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Be, to be in any kind of good position comes Sunbelt tournament time.

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It's also just a killer for your, your.

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Feel and your culture and your, you know, it's just, yeah, getting

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swept by anybody just hurts you.

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Uh, and, and again, not just Kyle, but at the, on the mound, Blake

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Morgan, of course, a huge part.

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I think this is at least the third or fourth time he is

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won this out of eight weeks.

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Um, he went five and a third innings, one earn run, one walk, two strikeouts.

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Uh, just phenomenal again and really could've, could've as easily given it

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to Bailey Patella for that same movie.

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We talked about him two and a third, uh, came in, got a, got

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a two and a third inning saved, one hit, one walk, one strikeout.

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Um, those guys were huge.

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You know, hunter Baes had a great week also.

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Um.

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Uh, Kellen Davis outta the bullpen.

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Kellen.

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Yep.

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Yeah.

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And, and again, Dylan and, and, uh, Dylan Brown and Ben Moore, they pitched five.

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I mean, Ben Moore won earned, run in four innings.

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He had some really not great defense behind him that's kind

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of got his inning to count up.

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Dylan Brown, three earned runs in five innings.

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I mean, to me, in a college game, if you get the three run runs in five

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innings, like you're doing pretty good.

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So the, the pitching has, like I said, it's been going a lot

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better in the right direction.

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And, you know, having guys like Blake who can step up and be that senior

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star, just, it's, it's invaluable.

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I've been trying to tell people how important it is that we essentially have

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an ace going every single Sunday because weird things happen on Sunday games.

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If you watch any other college baseball on Sunday, I mean, you saw some good

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teams getting their doors blown off.

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East Carolina got swept at home.

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They were not able to kind of overcome that and win on Sunday to avoid the sweep.

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Forest State got blown out twice by Wake Forest at home.

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Uh, things can go south, but knowing that we have someone like Blake that we can

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depend on to get you five, six, maybe 70 good innings on a Sunday and keep

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you in there because, you know, in this situation we had already lost a series,

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but we still need to win that game.

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But there's a lot of times you're going into that Sunday with a split series,

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and I'll put Blake up against anyone else who's throwing on Sundays in the Sunbelt

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easily, like without, without question.

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And then, uh, you know, this guy getting his, uh, well-deserved construction

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helmet crown there after his second

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helmet.

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Yeah, I know, I know we talked about the helmet.

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The, I don't know if we, uh, we had, I seen a picture of it

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yet, but yeah, there's the, with the construction helmet for the

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celebrations, which I think is great.

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Like I said, it's, it's very much, you know, if we're this team, we're uh,

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we're building the stadiums, that's why we're kinda these, these road warriors.

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And at the same time it's got that kind of, that lunch pail, you know,

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drinking, uh, water outta the garden hose mentality that you wanna have.

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I don't know that all our guys have, but I, we wanna have it.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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Well, as much as I love that picture, I'm gonna get that framed.

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Yeah.

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Either him or one of the FM ones.

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Great.

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Sure.

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You, you've taken some, uh, just awesome shots.

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I frankly, I think about 90% of the pictures I put up,

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we could, we could frame.

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'cause I, you know, we really good.

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Yeah.

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But, but again, guys gotta do cool stuff and y'all don't see

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all the ones that weren't good.

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I leave those and in the, and the camera.

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Um, yeah.

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Yeah.

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We, and we'll talk in a minute about the, the, the great, uh,

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link we have there on the site.

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Uh, but it was, it was nice seeing Steven Meyer.

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It was great.

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I know you said you gotta talk to him a little bit before the game Saturday.

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I gotta talk to him for, for a bit, uh, Sunday, you know,

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just guys a phenomenal kid.

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Um, just a really high quality person having a great year, uh, there with Troy

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and they're having a great year and, you know, he said he is rooting for us

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and I told him we're rooting for him.

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Uh, you know, we want them to, we want, and at the end of the day, you know,

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it's like, yeah, we wanna beat 'em where you're playing, but like, Hey, we want

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you guys to succeed and do really well.

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You know, we want, we want the, the conference teams to, to to, to

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have nothing but success, um, and.

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Kind of the best of both worlds.

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You know, we, the two games they won, we had, Steven was Hitless, I think he had

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a walk and a, and maybe hit by a pitch.

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Mm-hmm.

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And in the

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game we won, he got a couple hits and score a few runs.

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So, you know, I think he was like two for 12, two for 13 on the weekend.

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A couple of walks and, and hit by a pitch, you know, so it, it dropped his out.

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He went from, when you take a, a hitter on the top 20 team in the

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country is hitting like three 70 and holding the two hits on the weekend.

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You're doing pretty good.

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He did a good job of limiting him and I think the times he did get on base

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there was a runner in front of him so he wasn't able to beat us with the speed.

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'cause he has a lot of stolen bases this year.

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Yes.

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Uh, it was great catch up with him.

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Only got him for a couple minutes before they had to go huddle up

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and get ready to play on Saturday, but good to chat with him.

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I did not get an answer on why he went with the shorts, the baseball shorts.

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I know the crowd was letting him hear a little bit, but

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I don't think we didn't, I didn't, I don't think we keyed up a picture of that, but

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it, I, I'll share some later this week.

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Uh, yeah, his, his, he's doing the, uh, the, the pants at the, like the

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mid thigh situation, and he told me it was the only pants they had and.

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I kind of looked around, I was like, eh, a little dubious, but you know, I, I said,

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Hey, you're, you're making it, you know, when you look good, when you're hitting

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three 70, you do whatever you want.

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That's what I told him.

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Um, and he, he did admit that they do get higher as the game

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goes on, especially on base.

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He said he, he does think, he kind of unconsciously pulls 'em up on base.

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So they, they did, because that was the first time I noticed I

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had been taking pictures of him.

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And it wasn't until the time he got on base and I was like, I looked.

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Back of the camera, and I was like, why are his pants so high?

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What, what's going on here?

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I figured he was just messing with us in after each of bat, putting

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on a smaller size each time.

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So I'm glad we didn't get to like 6, 7, 8 of bats.

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I didn't know what that would look like,

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but yeah, no, I told, I I, I told him, uh, if anybody's seen Reno 9 1 1, the

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Lieutenant Dangle character who wears the, uh, he's, he's a sheriff, but he wears

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like Daisy Duke shorts, so he could, so he is mobile, he can move around and get

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mobile and, and so I, I was like, that's, that's what you got going on, right?

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He's like, yeah, the best Gotta be agile.

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Yeah.

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Gotta be.

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It was, it

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was great seeing, uh, Ryan Fineman too.

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And of course he coached with us and he's, he's there with Troy and, you

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know, he's, he's, and again, he's having a blast and they're, they're,

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you know, it's, Hey, when you're top 20 in the country, things are fun.

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So, uh, good for them and wish 'em well.

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And you know, we hope, we hope they have a great season.

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Um, and we hope we turn things around and start moving in the

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right direction and, and become a problem for 'em later in the year.

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Yeah.

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Uh, a couple of people wanna shout out from the weekend.

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Uh, Alex Hunt's, uh, parents, uh, ran into them actually getting

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on the tide at MacArthur Center, and we rode the tide to the game.

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Ended up being on the same train coming back.

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Uh, great to chat with him and get to know them a little bit.

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Uh, Evan Holman's parents were both at, uh, blue Moon

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at Waterside before the game.

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Uh, Dylan Brown's family kind of got that a little bit organized over there, so we

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were able to hang out with some of the parents, spend some time with them, uh,

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Kellen's mom and uh, uh, I guess Kellen's grandfather was in there with us as well.

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So, good to see all those people.

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Uh, Bo I know you're, you're listening, we got to, uh, to chat

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for about four innings on Saturday.

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So that was, uh, that was a lot of fun, but good to see you to you fans.

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Good to be at the ballpark.

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Yeah.

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So, uh, Blake's, uh, Blake, uh, his mom and brother

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surprised him, so that was nice.

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Good to see them.

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And, and she got to meet my mom, and so they're like,

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they're like mom besties now.

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So that's, that's always fun.

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Yes.

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Yeah.

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Your parents always, always take care of me.

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Uh.

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Gotta, gotta request more cookies at some point.

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'cause I got sent home with some of those after Georgia State.

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No, everybody,

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everybody loves my mom.

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And I'm like, I dunno what happened to me.

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I'm sorry that, that, she's great.

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And clearly there was a, clearly there's a disconnect.

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I kind of blame my dad on that one.

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I don't know.

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Uhhuh.

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Yes.

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But yeah, so,

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so tell him about, tell him about the website.

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Gary, what do we got there?

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Yeah, well, um, you and I kind of kicked this idea around and Mike Langston,

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uh, was also with us in the monarchist, kind of brought this to light, but we

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now have a site on the pride of odu nil.com, and I'm gonna pull this up here.

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Uh, it, it is basically just a really easy way to track all the former

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monarchs that are either in the pros, like Verlander, YBI, uh, pa

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in the majors.

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In the majors.

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The other guys are pros.

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Also, sir, don't, don't, don't, don't make my major pet peeve

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happen in real life in front of me.

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I've clearly been talking too much today.

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Uh, but all the guys that are in the majors.

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Okay.

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And then, uh, if you scroll down, you got our guys that are in the

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minor league systems right now.

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Uh, if you click these links, it'll take you right to their bio page for MILB.

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Mm-hmm.

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So if they move up and move down, if they get traded, whatever,

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the link will always be accurate.

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We may be a few days behind updating the text, but you can go on there and you

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can see their stats, how they're doing.

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I know we were keeping a close eye on Jacob Gomez and Trent

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Buchanan down in Augusta.

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They both had scoreless outings to start their minor league

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career, which is really awesome.

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We've got Kyle Battle down for Indie Ball.

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I know, I think there's a few other guys that are playing or will be playing soon.

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We will keep this as a living breathing list for now.

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Uh, but wanted to really have one clear, good, up-to-date spot

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where you can keep track, see if they're coming to your neighborhood.

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I know, uh, you know, with Hobe being down there with Mudcats,

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he's gonna be traveling up to Fredericksburg, out to Salem Del

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Marva, kind of all over the place.

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And, and

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Mudcats are only like two and a half hours away if you're in Hampton Roads.

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I know.

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I'm gonna go down there, uh, a few weeks.

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Uh, and I mean, I know, um, they're, Augusta doesn't come up here a ton.

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They've got both Gomez and Buchanan, but I know they're coming to Del

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Marva, I think the last weekend of April when Odus on the road too.

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So that's perfect.

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Go up and see them.

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Um, yes.

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Yeah,

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good chances to see those, those guys come through.

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But, uh, you know, big, big shout out to Mike Langston for getting that together,

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getting that on, on the Pride websites.

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It's the pride of odu.com.

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Uh, you can also find our podcast, get posted there in case you're

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looking for a different way to.

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Consume us.

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There's also some good, uh, merch on there for some of the guys,

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and that is just gonna continue to expand with what we're offering.

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I know there's some really cool stuff on the horizon that will impact this

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show in a very, very positive way.

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Not, not ready to announce all that good stuff yet, but,

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um, good thing to bookmark.

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Yeah.

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And I know last year we had, I think 23, uh, former Monarchs

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playing pro ball somewhere.

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Um, we'll see, you know, as Indie Ball gets started up here and then they

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usually start about the beginning of May.

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They wait till, you know, guys get cut out of, out of the organizations

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and then end up signing with them.

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Um, and so hopefully we'll add, we'll add some more and then as the summer goes on,

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hopefully some of our current guys will end up playing pro and you know, we will.

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Hopefully we get up towards that 23 number again.

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'cause it's, it's pretty nice to be able to say, I know that was one

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thing that we were down in Auburn and they kept saying we'd had like

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36 current professional players.

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And I was like, that's, that's a ton.

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And I was, you know, kinda like, how many do we have?

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It's like 23.

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23 is a lot for the school.

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People don't normally think of as, as, you know, ODU.

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Yeah.

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It's a good thing to show off.

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And, uh, we may add to that some of the summer ball things, uh, we found last year

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that's very difficult to track because Yeah, guys will play two games with one

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team and move to a different league.

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I moved to another one, uh, you know, as, as much as I'm, well it's funny you

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had, um, we got Ybi up there, Ryan Yarborough, I think the last time

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we played a game at Norfolk State.

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Yee started the game.

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Um, and he's in like his eighth year in the big leagues with like

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his sixth team or so, I don't know how many teams he's been with now.

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Um, so to tell you how long it's been since we played a game at Norfolk State,

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uh, it's, that's, it's been a while.

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So I'm looking forward to it.

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Yeah, that'll, it'll be interesting.

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I, I haven't looked at the Norfolk State site to see if they've

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added us to their schedule yet.

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I know they were.

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They are.

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They did.

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Um, they, they're, and, and we haven't talked about, I think we

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talked about this for a minute.

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I know we we're, we're going real long here, so we wanna get done, but they

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are, uh, they're having a tough year.

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They're one in 22.

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Um, but they got some hitters.

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They got some guys, especially the top like three in the

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lineup are really phenomenal.

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Um, and they, the pitching has been a struggle for 'em, but, you know,

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hey, you're, you're one in 22, I guarantee those guys are grinding,

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fighting and they're tired of losing.

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So, you know, don't wanna walk over there and think, oh, this is an easy one.

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Like, nah man, they've, I'm sure fairly Dickinson thought that till they lost.

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Yeah.

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And if there's one game they probably have circled on their calendar, it's us.

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Yeah.

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Do, they would love to meet the cross down team badly.

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They get hype every single time we've ever played them.

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They're, they, they, there was a game I think they did beat us at, at ODU and I

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mean, they were just losing their minds because that's, that's their World Series.

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Um, which good for them.

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It should be, you know, you gotta, you know, I'm sure plenty of 'em probably

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would've liked to have come to O to U and end up go Norfolk eight instead.

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And so it's like, Hey, I'm gonna show 'em up.

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Yeah.

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Get those bragging rights for a while.

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So our boys will need to be ready and have those bats hot early and

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often, uh, to get some runs up in that game and, and put it away.

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But yeah, they're gonna, they're gonna give us hell.

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And there's some scary thoughts creeping in the back of my mind

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going into this game on Tuesday.

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So hopefully you're listening to this on like late Tuesday, Wednesday.

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We've already won.

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It's fine.

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But, uh, I'm, I'm telling you, we're gonna get everything we

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can handle from the Spartans

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and I'm, I believe it's a, it's another great chance for our guys to step up

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and, and do some big things and keep moving here in the right direction.

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'cause like I said, you see the game like they played on Sunday, it's like,

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Hey, this is what the team can be.

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We, we keep having those kind of games where it's like,

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Hey, this is what we could do.

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And so I was talking with a Hunter Baynes about this, you know, we were talking

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after his game Friday, he pitched so well.

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I said, yeah, just keep stacking those ones.

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He's, that's what I'm trying to do.

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It's what the team's trying to do.

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Yep.

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Absolutely.

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Um, awesome.

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Then yeah, go down to Georgia Southern this weekend.

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Yes.

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They're always good.

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Uh, they're always tough to play at home.

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I think they got a guy situation hit 400.

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Yeah.

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Gotta watch out for that guy.

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Uh, yeah, they got a, they got

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a few dudes, uh, yeah, Sean Smith hitting 4 0 2 with a 1239 OPS.

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Uh, they got the top like three guys in their lineup are ridiculous.

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Um, so they, they got, they got some stuff.

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So, and again, they, they've had kind of up and down, you know, they're

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six and six, 18 and 13 overall, they've been kinda up and down.

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So yeah, that's, it's not gonna be easy weekend.

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And no weekend on the road is easy, but you know, again, if this team

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plays like they can and they grind out, some of bats take, take that

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Efrain Morales approach of, of you just wanna win every single time.

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We can do some stuff.

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And with the situation we're in of losing a home series, it's now imperative

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that we have to win a road series.

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'cause if you.

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You go two in one for all your home series and one and two on the road, you're gonna

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be 500 Sunbelt, you're gonna be okay.

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Come conference, tournament time.

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It's when you drop one of those series at home, you really have to work.

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Now we've, we've got some, some teams that we have the potential to

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do that against, but, uh, Louisiana Monroe isn't exactly a team that

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likes to be swept at home either.

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So let's, uh, not, not count those chickens yet, but we are gonna

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have to go win a road series.

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And why not start with this weekend?

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Why not get it right back right now?

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Let's good.

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And put ourselves in a good spot.

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Yep.

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It's a good week to have a good week.

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So, uh, we, we've definitely gone very long.

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I say we, we left the one, even though I, I will say you could

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just pause it and watch it again later, but whatever, uh, you, you

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do your podcasting however you want.

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Yes.

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Well, I got, uh, one more announcement and, uh, you know,

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oh, like I didn't even noticed that that's

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Oh, yep.

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Didn't notice.

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I dunno when that happened.

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I don't, I didn't, I missed it too.

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I have to go back in and review there.

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Uh, one, one other note we wanted to send out.

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Uh, I just wanted to send out well wishes and all the good

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thoughts to Ted Alexander mm-hmm.

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And his family.

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He announced on Friday that his wife passed away after a, I believe,

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a 15 year battle with cancer.

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Uh, so definitely send in all the good vibes, all the support,

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uh, to the voice of the monarchs.

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We've, we've missed him.

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Uh, and just, uh, you know, anything you can send his his way

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would be appreciated, uh, just for what he's done for our program.

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Then obviously going through a really difficult time right now.

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And, and I know he, he said in that same video, he is like, she

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would've wanted me to get back out there and, and do what I do.

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And so he is, like I said, I will be soon.

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And that, and that's great to hear.

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'cause I, I, you know, and you hope that it can be a place that,

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that brings him that comfort.

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Um, you know, uh, yeah, Ted Ted's awesome.

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He's a great guy.

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He is, he is.

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I really love listening to him calling games and yeah, really just

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thinking about him and his family.

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All right.

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Well, that's gonna do it for us today.

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We appreciate everyone who's tuning in.

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Um, everyone that ever, I, I miss probably a hundred people

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that came up and said hello.

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Oh yeah.

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At some point, the course of the weekend.

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But we appreciate, we appreciate the love, keep telling everyone you can think of.

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We're, we're definitely trying to grow this thing, but.

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I'll do it for us.

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Cb.

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Anything else?

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Go Monarchs.

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Go Monarchs.

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